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00:00:00 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Point of the conversation today is going to be so I added Greg to this. I don't know that he's gonna make it. I I didn't coordinate well with him other than picking the same time we did last week. So if he doesn't join, that's that's fine. We can maybe do this offline. But, the the main topic of the conversation is what happens if something happens to the repair equipment. And Scott and I have had some discussion on this about insuring, and we thought that getting the perspective from Greg would be the best. Interestingly, Cody Lewis is the r and d guy who does the software, and he was able to give me quite a bit in in intel Friday evening on this topic. So I'm gonna catch Scott up really quick if that's okay. Okay.

00:00:48 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
And then if

00:00:49 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Greg hops on, great. If not, we may just finish early. So I don't know.

00:00:53 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. Sounds good.

00:00:54 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
So, Scott, what I learned is that the the the calibrator is the gonna be the the primary discussion of this conversation, and that is a machined aluminum thing that in it has a sheet of glass, and that sheet of glass is a half inch thick, and it is relatively durable for a sheet of glass. On that sheet of glass is what appears to be a domino printed pattern, and that domino printed pattern is some scientific way very accurately that they can calibrate the machine. The aluminum, they have the engineering files for, and in a number of weeks, they could reproduce the aluminum substructure. The electronics are off the shelf electronics. There's nothing special about that. So it would be complicated. They would have to get the engineering files. They would have to send it off to a to a machine shop, get it built, but but it's doable. And, you know, six weeks, you could have the aluminum frame. Right? And the estimation there was we were in the tens of thousands of dollars to I asked them to put a 1,000, 10,000, a 100,000, like, ballpark to this. It'd be a pain, but it'd be doable. The sheets of glass, the one for gen one is in the asset list as s o one fiducial fluid. The in the asset list f three fixture is the gen two version. There is a third sheet of glass that has been bubble wrapped and is a backup if either of the primary two sheets should fail. Additionally, good information to know is that gen one sheet of glass can be used in a gen two machine that is interchangeable glass. The framing and how the Gen two mounts is slightly different. But for the most part, sheet of glass is a sheet of glass. So when we stop repairing Gen one, that Gen one sheet of glass can be a Gen two sheet of glass. And then there's a third sheet that is the spare sheet. HQ has a gen one in an emergency that could be leveraged as well. And so thoughts were the truck drives off a cliff going through Colorado. There would be the sheet of glass would have to be remade using some engineering knowledge that would have to be outsourced was how it was described to me. And that would be the most difficult fix of the entire mess. Ultimately, this would take two to three months to get rebuilt. There would be the tens of thousands for the hardware and probably tens more of thousands. So the the number a 100,000 seemed reasonable to replace this thing. What's interesting is that the let me say this before that. You would also have to then ship all the devices or replace them as new devices when they came in for repair and ship the repairs to Germany or somebody else to get repaired in that period of time. So I floated the idea. Cody is not necessarily a decision maker, but I was just we were having a pretty good conversation. And so I just said, to me, it makes sense to consider shipping the backup sheet of glass via another method that's not the truck, and then we we reduce our risk here substantially. Send the two sheets of glass in the machines with us and send the other sheet of glass well packed via FedEx custom critical.

00:05:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:05:13 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I feel like that's better than throwing what I would presume is a lot of money in insurance to try to cover this thing. That two different routes, two different ways. Again, the sheet of glass got here in the truck didn't. We'd still have a big problem on our hands, but it wouldn't be as big of a problem as we would have otherwise.

00:05:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I think that makes sense.

00:05:39 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. I do too. I wanted to get Greg's take on that thought. And so we can we can pick this back up next week maybe and get a little bit more alignment on his availability. And

00:05:54 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
spare parts are the other thing he pointed out.

00:05:57 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
If we lost all the spare parts, that would be a real problem. But he they admitted that or Cody admitted that, like, HQ would have to just inadvertently ramp up production of parts. We would have to ship some availability from HQ, but that's pretty mitigatable, it seems. That's that's the question I think Greg also should weigh in on is is that true? Like, we could mitigate that pretty easily by just shifting around. Yeah. So that's what I learned. Hopefully, that's helpful. I don't know if that helps you on the insurance topic and what to do about minimizing risk. But

00:06:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. So when do we think we'll have a chance? Do you wanna just call Greg? Do you want I don't know. Do we wanna set up another meeting with all of us to discuss it? What do we think is the best way to go?

00:06:55 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. I think I think I'll just ping him and ask if we can set up some time to chat. I'm tell him sorry for the last minute conversation. We we met. We'd still like to pick his brain for ten minutes and but, again, that could be next week too.

00:07:11 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Let's do it this week. What other big topics do we have out there that we'd wanna hit with them? I know we got a bunch of red ones on this list that, Scott, you pulled together related to valuation method of that assets. We had a followup that we need to figure out a communication plan with Philip for the decision that we made internally with our team to not not allow a sale onsite or immediately. So that that's one I wanna kinda get resolved this week too if we can. Those were those were probably the two big ones. I'm still I need to meet with Greg anyway to try to figure out how to reconcile the the digital tour deck that you have, Shawn, with our assets and check the completeness of everything else. And so there's there's quite a bit to talk about even outside of this one with him.

00:08:23 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Casey, do you wanna own scheduling time for everybody to communicate?

00:08:27 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I I'm not married to any methodology, but it sounds like instead of a bunch of meetings, it might make more sense just to have.

00:08:33 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
No. Yeah. The yeah. Let's just get one one big one on the calendar for later this week. I think it should definitely be doable. I wanna have it this week. But I guess the first domino that needs to drop is Philip knowing our plan of attack for the for the IT stuff.

00:08:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I would've with him Friday, and I did not do it. So I can do that today.

00:09:01 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Okay. Yeah. Try to catch him. And I think you got all the reasons why there's there's nothing personal about it. There's nothing we're just trying to control the the assets in our IP in a way that that makes us comfortable and and has the best controls.

00:09:23 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I mean, it's to me, it's a compliance topic if he has if he wants to fight it real bad, but I I I assume he knows. I don't know.

00:09:33 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah.

00:09:33 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
We'll see.

00:09:35 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. And I think that Amity is already working to beat with them on I guess, him and, Joe made an offer to buy all of the shop assets for, like, 5,000 or something. Just stupid.

00:09:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah.

00:09:50 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I'll buy them all. I'll give you 6.

00:09:53 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. No doubt. So I don't know where that one is either.

00:10:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Was gonna know the pound sand, basically, but I don't know if she came up with the political way to say that or not. So

00:10:06 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Well, I think her first move was gonna be asking for the ID code on the assets that they're that they're wanting to include in that 5,000 so we could at least compare it versus a purchase price in an ending book value.

00:10:24 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
The the band saw's worth the band saw and the planner are worth more than 5,000. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.

00:10:34 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Alright. Well, so are you gonna try to catch Philip? Philip is still in Europe. I don't think he's back till Thursday. So he might be hard to

00:10:45 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
early then. Yeah?

00:10:47 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. Maybe try to catch him tomorrow. I'm meeting Amity later today. I got a call from Michael on Friday afternoon. And his concern and I I don't know if Amity shares his concern, but I think she does, that there is no owner, like, one throat to choke related to the building closure. And I guess I kind of agree with that. I think all the work is moving forward. We do have a few a bunch of red items. Scott, I'm seeing you in this file right now. Yeah. We do have a bunch of red items, but it seems like everything's moving. Are we missing anything where we think we need more accountability? I I mean, I don't think it would hurt to let Greg know that we're running all these work streams, but we really need you to act as a coordinator and communicator across all. And that might be worthwhile discussion in this meeting as well. But are you guys seeing that concern?

00:11:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
The I think for me, there is still some confusion over who owns which pieces and parts. So I just added two new columns, Shapr owner, TTS owner, we can start kind of putting some things in there as

00:12:13 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Oh, good idea.

00:12:14 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Great. So I can take a first stab at that. Shawn, I had sent this to you. Did you have a chance to peek at it? What'd think?

00:12:20 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Peek, yes. I love the idea, and it it seemed very encompassing. Go through it in detail. I I have not yet that it's on my to do list yet, but they look like a great start to a lot of problems we've been talking through. Really good. Agree.

00:12:32 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Place to start making damn decisions.

00:12:35 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. No doubt.

00:12:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. Yeah. So I'll go through and add the ownership pieces and and see if we can get somebody identified, and we may have to assign people to it from time to time. But so, anyway, I can do that today too. But, no, Casey, I don't I can't think of I mean, there yes. There's a lot of things open that we need decisions. There are they are moving, but they're also, you know, exactly what does that look like and and how how do we get it to the next step, you know, is is the big confusion for me. So

00:13:12 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Okay. I'll start dropping in some names and keep on working on this list too here. Maybe we can just share this one. This is what we're it's just coming through now?

00:13:24 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yep.

00:13:26 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
What we're looking at in real time. Then this one this one, I think, is red. Which one? The legal. Yeah. And this one, I wanna figure out how to escalate immediately. I'll be talking with Amity around that one today. And then there was one more.

00:13:51 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Scott, is it your vision we could use this in our weekly meeting?

00:13:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I I I don't care what format. I just we didn't have any place that captured everything. So

00:14:02 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I would rather use this. I'm honestly, I feel like there are so many sources of truth that I'm very open to change, and this might be a good change.

00:14:10 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
What I did is I went through, like, all my meetings, every note, every topic we discussed, tried to find the latest version of it because I discussed the same things over and over again in eight meetings, and that gets it's just mind blowing to me how we're doing it now. So

00:14:28 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. If there's no yeah. I think we've got from a outside of the ELT, I think we've got a lot of stuff compressed to our Thursday meeting, hopefully. That's helped, at least Pascal and I, reduce the number of meetings we attend.

00:14:48 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
I'll put both of our names in here, Scott.

00:14:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yes.

00:14:52 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
That isn't that's super helpful, but I'm I'm taking off some of these finance ones from the list. Then the one that we brought up a couple times that I'm not seeing here is the go to market plan by channel for in between 1031 and '27.

00:15:22 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I thought we had that in here. It isn't that.

00:15:24 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. I thought

00:15:24 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
it was before I looked. That's a sub item of 15, I would think.

00:15:29 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Oh, here it is. Yeah.

00:15:31 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
But that's to be fair, that's broad. That could mean after January or before January. There's probably kind of that splits into two, I would think.

00:15:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So let's do that. Let's do split it into two. So this is post one one. This is

00:16:07 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. Perfect. And then I'm wondering if we even drop in another one or

00:16:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
your

00:16:35 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
So we get both on the list, ecommerce and dealer. Because I I think even on the dealer side, if we wanna do business starting in no November, then the inventory transition needs to start happening little earlier, probably with those that Canada warehouse in The US. And these are probably nuanced even more between US market and Europe market.

00:17:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah.

00:17:11 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Alright. Yeah. I I think we should use this one going forward in all of our conversations. It feels like we have the critical, critical things on here.

00:17:19 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. They're at least captured. Right? So

00:17:22 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. Cool. Alright. Great. Well, I'll take next steps to get that with Greg. Let me know how it goes with Philip. I'll try to understand a little more from Amity as well on other concerns with the project management oversight and coordination on the facility piece. I think it it might be there's a little risk there, but I'm thinking we can get it back under control over the next couple weeks. And then

00:17:52 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
The one Casey, the one

00:17:54 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
thing we'll need to talk with Greg about just is and that was the second part of my conversation today with him is making sure that they're gonna have resources on the thirteenth to help move this stuff. He he sent me a photo that there's a gate. I essentially, we can't get a forklift in the building, which is bizarre, I guess, to say the least. But so everything's gonna be carried out on pallet jacks. And I just wanna make sure, like, the guy we're bringing will operate the forklift and do loading and securing and, you know, he's gonna make sure that the truck's ready to go, but he he isn't gonna carry the furniture out like Hercules. So I I'm I'm I'm just worried that the only person in the band for that show is Greg, and I don't I don't think that's fair to him.

00:18:49 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
I agree. Alright.

00:18:51 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
So we need to figure out something around that. That's fine. I'm I'm just not sure if Greg has people up his sleeve that he hasn't told us about or if he thinks he's just gonna do it himself. I just don't want him to be on the hook for that, and I wanna make sure he understands that we're there to load the truck, but we won't our guy won't necessarily carry furniture out per se. Yeah. Makes sense.

00:19:14 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Well, it seems like we we just need a little bit of a more deep dive on that specific moment Yeah. Because we talked about me me being down there for a financial control point. Like, what are we using? What is the process that I plan to use to control it? What labor do we have?

00:19:35 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Well, I I envision somebody from The U or from our side being there as well. I we just don't know who at the moment.

00:19:41 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Yeah. Yeah. Definitely want someone. One of you guys are engaged, I think, is what we talked about.

00:19:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Shawn, I wanna talk I'm gonna find time for you and I to sit and chitchat today and kinda knock some of this out. So

00:19:56 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yep. I have pretty loose day today.

00:19:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Say that again. What'd you say?

00:20:01 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I have a pretty relaxed day today, so just let me know.

00:20:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Sounds good.

00:20:05 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Alright. Thanks, fellas. And I'll have that lit on switching topics to the AI piece. A lot of good conversations with some of the leaders here last week. I'll have that completed with our key contacts that we wanna get trained.

00:20:22 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Great. Awesome. Sounds good.

00:20:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Appreciate it.

00:20:25 - [CASEY_CAVANAUGH]
Alright. Thanks, gentlemen. Have a good rest of the week. Cheers. Bye.