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00:00:00 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Sending you the invoices. You might wanna take a look at whether they're in the right categories. The one thing I'm wondering is well, maybe two things I'm wondering. One is all this up all good there. I think I put it under impact, and I don't know whether that should have been AdaptX.

00:00:16 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
How how hard is it to create a new matter? Is

00:00:20 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
it We we can no. I mean, it's not a big deal. I mean, we can do it.

00:00:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
If I send you like, is it is it possible to do after the fact? Because we don't really care on our side for the billing, but for me in record keeping, when you pull reports, it would be better if they were in because I categorize them on my end. If I say it's kinda what I categorize, would that help maybe?

00:00:40 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yep. It would do.

00:00:41 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Say again?

00:00:42 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
What do you want what changes do you wanna make?

00:00:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So so I want I would so right now, we have Impact, and it covered, Adaptex and, some of the Rift stuff. I'd like to separate some of those out.

00:00:56 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. I mean, I oh, I have two different ones. I have one for Adaptex.

00:00:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah.

00:01:00 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
And I have doesn't go to you, I think. It goes to Tamara.

00:01:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:01:04 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Then I have Impact.

00:01:05 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. So I think on some of the first ones, I think we started merging some, which is okay as it let me look at it, I'll just send you an email. And I'll if you if you say that makes sense, you can send it to Denise or whatever makes sense to you.

00:01:19 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Well, send it to both of me and Denise. She'll we ultimately will have to deal with it. So

00:01:23 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
That works for me then.

00:01:25 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
But are you looking about going backwards in just for this month or prior months too?

00:01:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I'm gonna look at this month right now, and then I'm I'm not really worried about the other stuff right now. So

00:01:36 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
It's an exact it probably gets messy if you've already paid.

00:01:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. Then don't worry about it. So, well, that's what I was gonna say is I don't want you to, like, change any invoices. I just was I just wondered for your record keeping if it would help you at all or not.

00:01:47 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
So Oh,

00:01:47 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
we can always set up a new matter if you think things are kind of if you want to, so just let us know.

00:01:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. I'll do that.

00:01:55 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
K. Hi, Tamara. Hi, Tamara.

00:01:57 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Hey, both. Sorry for being late.

00:02:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No worries.

00:02:00 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
All good. I wasn't sure if we

00:02:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
could do. It's not a problem.

00:02:08 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
We just had a call, though, with, Frieder and Oliver and Laura and Leah and yada yada yada. We'll see. Maybe in two weeks, I'll have a plan.

00:02:22 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
We're getting really pro at having meetings. But

00:02:25 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Regarding Adapt XO, you're you're okay in Shapr. Okay.

00:02:30 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Let me look at my notes. So Scott and I were just catching up on all of these things. Alright. Hold on. In terms of let's see. I know I have something new. Protecting I have a new tab on my notes. Protecting Festool GmbH. That's the category that we talked about. Scott, I think I sent you an email, like, Sunday night or something. I forget what it

00:03:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
You did. And I just sent an email to Matt Howard and Amity saying that it's a thing that I'd like to pursue, and it's part of the reason why I need to visit Germany and stuff like that. So

00:03:17 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Well, it also comes up in the ad app x thing too when we start to have those Shaper and Festool operating, you know, out of the same entity.

00:03:25 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
100. Agree.

00:03:28 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
And the issue, Tamara, is what we're what we were talking about and have probably talked about before, but it comes up when Festool GmbH is named in, well, a lawsuit here in The US is how do we give ourselves enough ammunition bullets to fight against those things to get Germany out of these lawsuits.

00:03:54 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Mhmm.

00:03:55 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
And and there's a variety of things we can do with paperwork, etcetera, maybe some operational slight changes, but mostly optics in some respects, that would help a litigator say the they've named a party that shouldn't be named, you know, and here's all the reasons. Right now, what they do is they say, well, the manufacturer is Festool GmbH, and, therefore, Festool GmbH is subject to the jurisdiction of The United States. We can provide a handful at least a handful of, I think, which would be effective ways of getting moving or dismissing Festool GmbH from those types of lawsuits going forward.

00:04:42 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
And Okay.

00:04:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
It should be perfect because we need that. So

00:04:45 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. The idea, generally speaking, is you treat it as a a lot more of a arm's length basis of saying, like, if forget the fact that it's a subsidiary, but is if if somebody here in The US said, hey. Festool in Germany, I love your products. Some of them, some not, maybe. I'd like to I'd like to buy them from you and resell them here in The US. Festool Germany might say, if they're, you know, adequately advised, okay. But I don't wanna be subject to any lawsuits. So if I sell these to you, you have to make sure they're good under US law, that they qualify for regulations, etcetera, and you agree to indemnify me in Germany if I ever get brought into a lawsuit. In that way, and you also say, you gotta come to Germany to get the goods. I don't. I'm not doing business in The US. I am gonna sell them to you, but you gotta come here in Germany and get the goods, and then you can resell them. That would help a lot in terms of a court saying, yeah. You're right. You're you haven't subjected yourself to US jurisdiction. You've protected yourself. You placed it on this other entity, and that other entity is gonna be the one to deal with this. Sorry. Give me one second. But that's the I

00:06:08 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay. But, Scott, from my perspective, we have it with the full Festool LLC because Festool LLC is a importer import company. So Festool

00:06:20 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I think the the structure's right. I think he's he's saying there's an agreement that needs to be put into place between the two companies, and and maybe it's not written correctly now. But that's a good point, Tmar. We should ask him because my guess is AFS probably set that up back in the day.

00:06:37 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah. Because from my perspective, Festool LLC buys. Yes. That's that's the reason why we have the discussion discussion of of of taxes and of, yeah, tariffs. We have it at the moment, yeah, with US. So that's Festool LSE or the Festool US LSE is a import company. And I guess we have an import partner contract. We haven't won. We have an inter company contract. Maybe it's not the the yeah. We have an import partner contract. I I guess that's it. And

00:07:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I would have thought

00:07:31 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
could be approved. That could yeah. That from my perspective, it will be an evidence to to prove that, yeah, we Festool GmbH is only the manufacturer to sell in in The US comp in countries.

00:07:52 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I think that's right. Don't Dave, can you hear us yet?

00:07:56 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Give me one second. Sorry. Just one sec.

00:07:58 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
It's okay.

00:08:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. I agree. I think that that because that's what I always that's what so when I talked to this this latest attorney, I don't know if Leo's given you an update, but I I told that attorney that I thought GmbH should be excluded, and he said no. Because they're the manufacturer, they can't be excluded.

00:08:19 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So Yeah. That's the point. I I so when I talked to Jonathan Judge, we talked about, like, all of these various things that we can do that would allow them to move to dismiss GmbH from the lawsuits.

00:08:33 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah. But, of course so, Dave, I I said to Scott, so why we have this discussion? Yeah? As far as I understand you, from your perspective, we need a proof of evidence or we need an evidence to prove that the call the the products will be imported or would be imported to US. Yes? And our structure, from my perspective, is that we have Festool GmbH. Yeah. That's the manufacturer. And Festool USA is a import company. So Festool USA imports the con the the products. Yeah? And that's our corporate structure. And in between these companies, we have we have, of course, an intercompany con contract. Maybe it's not the newest one, but there is a inter company contract. And where I I can't yeah. So Well truthfully yeah.

00:09:43 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So we would have to so one thing you would have to just look at that in that intercompany contract is, does it say FOB Germany?

00:09:53 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
That's said That

00:09:56 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
that means that the US company took title to the to the goods in Germany and then imported them. If that's not the case, then that hurts us.

00:10:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I think TTS and ALP takes I think I'm trying to remember when we we take I know we take ownership once it's on US shores because if there's a a theft, we deal with it. But I don't know about on the Yeah.

00:10:21 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So that would I think what would be important to have is an FOB Germany pricing in risk of loss so that The US takes ownership title in risk of loss when it leaves as soon as it leaves the factory in Germany. That's one as that's one aspect that helps you get the the German entity out of this. The other is who's responsible, the German company or the US company, for confirming that the products are certified under US laws.

00:11:05 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
From my perspective, The US companies, it comes also from CICE company.

00:11:10 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So it's

00:11:11 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
CICE contract. Yeah?

00:11:13 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
It's memorial.

00:11:14 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Sorry to to ask you again. What's your first point? Could you could you explain it again? So

00:11:22 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Sure. So FOB, pre onboard Germany.

00:11:29 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah. Okay. So Yeah. That would that It it it depends on the Ingo terms that that will be negotiated. Okay.

00:11:36 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So FOB could do right. What we wanna show is that the German entity absolved itself of any issues from a US law perspective

00:11:46 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Mhmm. Mhmm.

00:11:48 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
At the point at the point it left its factory. So it's not doing business with The US. Yeah. It it's doing business in Germany with a US company, but the US company is entirely responsible for everything. Yeah. That part is yeah. So it's it's showing that independence in some respects or the absolution of the Germany German company from being subject to the jurisdiction of The United States.

00:12:15 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Mhmm.

00:12:16 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I do think TTS run out of Germany, though. I know we we have Amanda here, and she kind of helps coordinate it. But I thought Germany did it all through Eurofence and MET. But I I can from that.

00:12:27 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
That might be okay, Scott. Even if that's the case, we can work with that. But, ultimately, what you'd wanna show is that The US US entity or The US employees ultimately sort of taking ownership over making sure that it's certified, making sure that it qualifies under UL or all these other things.

00:12:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
And I think that is accurate. I think we are responsible to make sure it's got its its stuff.

00:12:49 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
It's really kind of just saying, if you say, oh, everyone in Germany goes through that, that's a little bit different. Now you are kind of subjecting yourself to doing business in The US as opposed to having the US company doing that work. It can again, it could be optics too, you know, as long it but we'd have to sort of look at that to say, is it the US company that's getting the certification? Is the US company if it's US company, it's gonna be the US employees, not necessarily the German employees saying, oh, I'm making sure these things qualify. It's showing that kind of app you know, that kind of fee that kind of, visual contractually, that the outs the outsourcing of that function is with the US company, not the German company.

00:13:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:13:36 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Again, again, the the idea that is that you say, we have not subjected we are we are not subjecting ourselves to US jurisdiction. But that's why there's a US entity, and that US entity is doing the business in The US, not Us.

00:13:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Dave, do you have copies of the original intercompany agreements between, like, TTS and ALP and Festool USA? Okay. I'll I'll pull the ones I have tomorrow. I'll check with you to to make sure that's the most current ones you guys have, and then I can send those to this group, and we can just make sure that that's what I would be talking about.

00:14:07 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. First, I would take a inventory of what that looks like, and then I would likely

00:14:11 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
see where we're starting from and then what we need

00:14:14 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
to do to happen.

00:14:15 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
If I envision you And, Scott Scott, you're right. That's not Festool that's not Festool US LSC. That's TTS North America OP. So you are right. Because yeah. And there there must be an intercompany agreement with these these both parties. Yeah. Because I looked up distribution agreement. Here we are. Give me give me a second. I'll share my screen. Okay. So it's, Festool GmbH, and it says Festool production LLP.

00:15:10 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Right.

00:15:11 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Today, TTS North America LP.

00:15:14 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So Got it.

00:15:15 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah. It comes from Festool goes to TTS, and I guess we in in the future, we will go to Festool. Okay. So that's that's the hidden champion here in this enterprise group, and we have a intercompany contract. And that's I'm not check

00:15:38 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
So what we would likely wanna look at that and see what we changes we should make to helping protect Festool.

00:15:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. That's that's my thoughts, Dave, is we probably need to and we probably need to redraft it because TTS and ALP sells it to Festool USA LLC. And the reason why we kept those two entities separate was to keep the inventory out of lawsuits. But now if we make it FOBTTS, are we putting that all at risk?

00:16:09 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Potentially, yeah. I'd have to look at that. But yeah.

00:16:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. So let me let me get a lay of the landscape for us, summarize. And then, Dave, I think that would probably help us the most is getting a starting point, and then you can give tomorrow and I an idea. Okay. Here's what you need to do. You need to draft this agreement. We need to modify this one.

00:16:28 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
And and, again, the idea is, like, here's what we would do, and I'd have Jonathan help on this. But here's what we can do to give the Festool GmbH the best defense on not subjecting itself to you.

00:16:39 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
And not okay. And give me to jump in. Yeah. If we we should be safe that we make not a small point to a big point because we have in our minds a restructuring of our US companies. And what I like to avoid is that we, yeah, modify contracts, intercompet contracts for maybe we not catch all risk. Yeah? But we catch a lot of risk with this t with this intercompany contract. For this pack for this background or the for this future aim to restructure in The US companies, for me, it will be fine. Yeah? Not go in yeah. Of course, we should avoid Festool GmbH out for legal issues in The US cases. Yes. Of course. But how can I say it? We have to we have with a moderate, we have to yeah. We have to avoid have to avoid paper stuff and paperwork if we have because now we changed an intercompany contract for for a background to keep Festool GmbH out. And in two or seven months, we have to make new contracts, intercompany contracts. Yeah? Because we're restructuring US entities. Yeah? And that's what Scott also say. If we have catch 8 60 versus contract versus Swiss, that will be for my maybe it's a good solution for the current situation. I guess, to to cover 100, I don't know.

00:18:47 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
It's a 100. No. I get it. And and by the way, we don't need to do we can get these set up, and then when we know which legal entity it's gonna be between, is it in terms of The US restructuring, we can do it with whatever entity we wanna do it with. And my view is I looking at that intercompany agreement, we can see where there might be you know, where we would want to make changes. We don't have to make the changes, but we can talk about which changes we would specifically, propose and then wait until you're ready to make those if you want to make them.

00:19:23 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay. Scott, do you have this intercompany contract? Yes, I guess. Yeah.

00:19:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah.

00:19:30 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay.

00:19:31 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Okay. But I I your your concern, Tamara, is more on the issue of doing all this paperwork and then having to redo the paperwork.

00:19:43 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yes. Also. Yeah. And to to or about ten minutes ago, that's where Scott and me come from and say, okay. Where is the risk and where is where is the where is the risk and where where are the, yeah, where is the dots? Yeah. Because from my perspective, we have regulated this we have regulated this relationship between US, Festool US, and Festool GmbH with the intercompany contract. And from my perspective, a lot of this, yeah, say, okay. So it's only the manufacture Festool GmbH is only the manufacturer, And the relationship ends in Germany, and TTS North America takes the risk of the sales and of all the regulations inside The US. Yeah? Yeah. That's that's what I understand from you, Dave, that should be the aim to keep out Festool GmbH of the lawsuits. Yeah? Right. And if I look up in this intercompany contract from my perspective, be but I know don't know in in detail. Yeah? I said a lot of this will be clarified with this contract because that was intention of this contract.

00:21:18 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. Okay. So I think once we look at it, maybe it's maybe it's just very little changes that we would propose, but we'll see.

00:21:26 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay.

00:21:27 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. I think I think the overall message, Tamara, is that we are aligned on what the intention has been and what we just now need to confirm or con you know, or make certain as much as we possibly can with the least

00:21:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I agree.

00:21:47 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Without reinventing the wheel.

00:21:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
As fun as that is. Yeah.

00:21:52 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. Okay. And tomorrow knows lawyers love reinventing the wheels. That's that's how we whoever That's

00:21:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
how we are. Anyone who builds by the hour loves it. Come on.

00:22:03 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Okay. So, Scott, you'll send that to me?

00:22:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I will. Yep. I'll copy you both on it just so we all stay on the same page.

00:22:11 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
With the inter with the, with The US reorganization, we need to look at that from the Festool from the Shaper perspective too going thinking about that later this year.

00:22:21 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
All of the reorgs, I'd like to take into account as we think about it because if we make changes, don't to tomorrow's point, I don't wanna redo this. Like, let's let's understand the the big picture and kinda go from there. So and and, Dave, at some point, do wanna have a followup call, probably just you and I about the reorg and kinda what you think and what you see

00:22:40 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah.

00:22:41 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Because of a conversation I had with Amity. So

00:22:45 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Okay.

00:22:46 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. No. No. No.

00:22:46 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
So if you that's that's a good point, Scott. After you have aligned with with Dave, maybe we should take this in our next meeting or in our our next sure fix and say, okay. At the current stage, what is the picture of the reorg? Yep. Yeah. That will be good. Yeah. To to hear you and to hear Dave from the corporate perspective, how it should like in the future.

00:23:16 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah.

00:23:17 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah? Yeah. Okay. I have more legal question because our term ends is regarding the Supreme Court decision.

00:23:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
The tariffs. On the tariffs?

00:23:33 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
The tariffs. Okay. Scott's fighting. Okay. Dave say, oh, last we know. Well, the short the

00:23:43 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
short answer is no one is certain yet exactly how that's gonna unfold because there's still rules and things like that that are gonna have to be taken. Scott and Amity have talked with our leader of our trade group, our trade customs and trade group, David Hamill. And I and I think we've given Amity what she needs, I guess, in the meantime to deal with it. As everyone knows, there's also additional tariffs in play that are not covered by the Supreme Court's decision. And so that's, you know, continuing to be a fight. But I think for now, we are kind of in the same position that most companies are in, which is we're waiting to see what the procedures will be to try to see if there's ways to recapture the already paid tariffs, but it's it's a mess as you as you probably were.

00:24:40 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
But for my knowledge, it will be good that there was only a decision about the base about, oh, okay, about the sewers. Yeah? That was not a decision about any kind of refund. Yeah? Correct.

00:24:58 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Correct.

00:24:59 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay.

00:24:59 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
It it basically pushed it down to the lower courts to deal with that issue.

00:25:04 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Oh.

00:25:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Classic hot potato. I don't want it. It's a mess.

00:25:12 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
And and there's gonna have to be rules and rags, and then who knows that there'll be further challenges on that. It's yeah. It's a it's a lawyer's dream tomorrow.

00:25:20 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Mhmm. Mhmm. Because a nice idea from from the finance perspective was to, yeah, to to sell to to to to sell the claims, yeah, to an hedge fund on ace. Okay. That's far away because we only have a decisions that will be okay. That will be the source will be not the, yeah, tickets will be not the right one. Yeah? Or is okay. From my perspective, not the president has can't make this decision. What the supreme court says is not the president can make this decision. It must be done by the congress. So that will be the wrong person for this decision, but there will be no decision from the supreme supreme court regarding refunds in any way.

00:26:26 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Correct. Right. They basically just said those are those were unconstitutional. But but but the regulators and

00:26:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
courts

00:26:36 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. Exactly. How to how to deal with it. Exactly.

00:26:40 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Okay. So good. Good.

00:26:48 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
We still have to plan Germany visit.

00:26:52 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. So

00:26:53 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Eastern.

00:26:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
That one's kinda on hold for me, Dave. So a little bit of personal if you guys don't mind for a second. So, Tamara, I don't think you know this yet, but in November, my 20 year old daughter was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. So I've been dealing Yeah. So Sorry. She's been in the hospital since February. She spent more time in the hospital than she has at home. And last night, they admitted readmitted her to the ICU for the first time or for the second time in two weeks. So Mhmm. I don't know, Dave, if I'm gonna be able to travel as early as I had planned, which was coming up. So it might get pushed to, like, June or something like that later this summer once we get all that handled. So the intent is still to to come to Germany. I will be there probably twice, once for the IMM and then once for a bigger trip because I'm bringing, my IT team and strategy teams over to talk with, like, burned over buyer and and things like that. So, Dave, I would like to coordinate those two trips with you, and and you and I pick one that makes sense for us, and then the IMM is is set. And if if they're the same, that doesn't we'll have to at least offset it by a week just because during the IMM, everybody's busy. But I just don't That would be Okay. I just don't think that's in April yet. So

00:28:08 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
We'll confirm with tomorrow and see, you know, what the best date would be for most people being in the office. Yeah. In June. Yeah. Okay. No worries.

00:28:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. I just wanted you to know because I was trying to make it work, but after last night, I

00:28:22 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
was work out.

00:28:23 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I don't think I really went to bed last night, so it's kinda Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:27 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Oh, Scott. So I press all. Yeah. And that's hard hard stuff.

00:28:34 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
It is.

00:28:34 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
It's very hard stuff.

00:28:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
She's a fighter, though, so she I I have every belief she's gonna be fine, but it is making a family life a little bit more challenging than normal. So Mhmm. But yeah. Anyway, I normally, I don't wanna burden her.

00:28:47 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
That's your own daughter? That's your only daughter? Sorry.

00:28:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I have one daughter and one son. So my son is younger. He's school still. So yeah. So that's kind of the issue is is my wife will have to travel with her down to Houston where the cancer center is, and so I'll need to be home and around him for because he's still in high school and finishing up there and all that kind of stuff. So

00:29:08 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
So young.

00:29:10 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. It's a a special kind of cancer that targets young women. So what what a special piece of trash. Right? So Mhmm. Cancer sucks in general, but this is worse. So now yeah. We'll we'll

00:29:26 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
get it.

00:29:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
But I I I just Yeah. I just kinda know what was going on.

00:29:29 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
You make it. You yeah. Yes. Of course. Because the only thing what helps is that you and your family yeah. You make it.

00:29:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
For sure.

00:29:41 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah. Hope.

00:29:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I told her if she can get well, I'll take her to Germany with me. So there you go.

00:29:45 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah.

00:29:47 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
You know, if we go on October or September, whenever Oktoberfest is, we can make a we can make make it even better.

00:29:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
And she turns 21 in eleven days, so she'd be 21 when she went. So there

00:29:57 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
you go.

00:29:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Actually, in Germany, she doesn't even need to be 21. Never mind. But Yeah. Okay. So, Dave, I'll I'll once my plan today is to kinda get a feel for what my next several months are gonna look like, and then I might ping you with, like, some windows and see what works for you. And then I'll with Tamara, and there's several other groups I need to meet with too. So just trying to figure out how that's Okay.

00:30:21 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah. Whenever you want.

00:30:23 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
K? Mhmm. That's best way. And that's more important. Your daughter is. Yeah. Okay.

00:30:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Perfect.

00:30:31 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Any any Yeah. For my side note

00:30:35 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
k.

00:30:36 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Yeah.

00:30:37 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Want to

00:30:37 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
Thank you, bro.

00:30:38 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
We're confirmed for next for for, sorry, April?

00:30:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Let me look. April

00:30:45 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
at, 10 Chicago, which is what? 4 Germany?

00:30:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
April 14, you said, Ray?

00:30:52 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
Yeah.

00:30:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yep. That's what I

00:30:53 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
have. Yeah. K. Very good. Alright. Good.

00:31:01 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Alright. Appreciate you guys. Thanks a lot.

00:31:02 - [TAMARA_JOOS]
You. Thanks. Bye. Bye bye.

00:31:05 - [DAVID_MCHUGH]
We'll see you. Bye.