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00:00:00 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Like I mean, I know that we need to figure out this NetSuite thing, so I'm just trying to figure out what I'm gonna need to do before I'm not here. Because I know we've never really aligned on, like, the time frame that we needed.

00:00:18 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I guess the only thing we really have outstanding on the NetSuite specifically is, boundaries for what we want a renewal to look like, and we can defer that to Casey as we go forward just because he has experience with it. Or if you wanna set kind of a hard boundary, I can work within that scope, kinda whichever way you prefer.

00:00:39 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
In terms of the time frame that we need?

00:00:41 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Time frame and then resulting cost, like, just because I haven't seen anything yet. So are they gonna try to rake us over the coals for going with a shorter timeline or something like that?

00:00:52 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
I mean, do you think we can drag our feet until I'm back on it, or are they gonna

00:00:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I mean, we can because it's not actually up until August. So

00:01:01 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Right. I don't know why they need to get it in the corridor. Maybe now they don't care since this is

00:01:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. It's not gonna make or break anybody at this point because we pulled it back so far. So

00:01:11 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Yeah. I mean, I guess I don't know if I wanna outsource it to Casey because we're not on the same page. Right. So, I mean, I guess if you guys need an answer, maybe, you know, you pull Casey and Mike together and kind of debate it out. But I, at this point, my thought is six months, I would maybe be willing to do seven months to get through the end of the quarter.

00:01:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
K. That sounds good. And, I mean, quite honestly, I don't see any reason to push the decision super fast. So Yeah. We could align on it, and then I'll just be honest to say, well, Amity's on vacation. When she gets back, we'll, you know, complete the alignment on our side and go from there. I don't I don't really feel comfortable signing without you looking at it. So

00:02:08 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
I mean, I would still be back on the thirtieth or thirty first. So if they need us to sign it by the end of the month, that would be feasible. If if I mean, you know, I would like it to get to a place I don't wanna, like, force like, if I would like Casey to be comfortable with what we decide. Like, I don't, you know, I'm not trying to force it to six, seven months if we're not all comfortable. So I would like us to get to a place where we're all kind of comfortable with that decision. So, you know so, I mean, I guess if you guys need to have conversations without me, that's fine, and then kinda see where we think what we think makes sense between Casey and Mike. And

00:02:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I think that works. I I I think that that's okay. I mean, we went over the spreadsheet this morning in the Adaptex collaboration, which is, like, all the management level here. So I got good updates from people. So I'm gonna update the spreadsheet, and then I'll circulate that at that point.

00:03:09 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Yeah.

00:03:09 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. So I can get that out later, and that kinda has the rest of the information. But I don't think there's anything really sitting on your plate at the moment. I mean, I have you guys, like, informed on quite a few things, but nothing's like, it would die if you're not here. So

00:03:23 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Okay. I mean, the other big thing is the asset stuff, and I'm still not feeling great about the asset stuff. It feels like a hot mess. So I don't know I mean, I feel like Casey's on point for it, but I doesn't feel like it's getting much further along. So I know we have a call tomorrow with Ren and Casey.

00:03:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I don't

00:03:45 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
know if you're in that. Maybe Shawn and Ren to kind of view those assets again, but I think we still need that list to be consolidated. We still need to have a plan of action. So I think that's coming up quick. Is there a reason that we're moving everything, like, April 13?

00:04:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
There was. I don't remember what the real issue was.

00:04:09 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
And we don't have to be out of the building till May 31?

00:04:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Well, I think it's because we didn't wanna do a two stage remove and something about repair. I but I'd have to double check everything.

00:04:21 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Okay. I guess I just I wanna just make sure we're ready. I don't feel like we are. So

00:04:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I know your day is busy tomorrow, but I wonder, do you have any time at all?

00:04:36 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Twelve to 1230.

00:04:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Is that it?

00:04:40 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Four to five or eight. I have eight to nine. I have twelve to 1230, and I have four to five. I could also shorten my meeting with because it usually doesn't take an hour. So I could be free at 1030 or eleven, depending on which way I move him.

00:04:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I just thought it might be something that, like, you, Shawn, and I could meet just for thirty minutes and kinda walk through the last bit of the plan because he's been doing a lot of organization.

00:05:11 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Do you want Casey to be there too?

00:05:13 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Probably. So maybe four, 0430, something like that.

00:05:18 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Well, what time it would be 8AM if we did it at eleven.

00:05:22 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. That's true.

00:05:26 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
We could do that. That's right before the asset review with Ren. And then and then maybe at that end of that or something, we could pull we could update Casey on the other meeting, and we could also pull Mike in maybe to have that discussion if we need to.

00:05:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. That works.

00:05:45 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Because I think those are the big topics. Okay. So 1030 to eleven is gonna be casual, and then that's gonna open up my eleven to 1130. So Casey I guess I don't know

00:06:05 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
if Casey's even available. But

00:06:09 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Can we just sneak it in there and see what happens?

00:06:11 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
K.

00:06:12 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
C. Unavailable, he says. One person unavailable. Why?

00:06:18 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Oh, I Is he Mine is marked unavailable, but I I'll move that meeting. It's okay.

00:06:22 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
It's not you. I didn't even have you on there yet.

00:06:26 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Shawn. Let's see here. Scheduler.

00:06:33 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Oh, yeah. Katie is pretty busy tomorrow. Holy moly.

00:06:39 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Casey. Oh, yeah.

00:06:45 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Everybody is busy then.

00:06:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Four Four people open.

00:06:53 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Yeah. Not anything I wanna do. I have a meeting at

00:06:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Especially at this meeting. Right?

00:06:59 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
On Friday

00:07:00 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
before a vacation, but okay. Let's see. Back. Four to 0430.

00:07:10 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Let's see. Adapt, x, asset, asset, discussion, Discussion in NetSuite. Okay. And then I'll just maybe pull Mike in at the end of it if I'll let him know. Let's see if

00:07:30 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
he's available. He doesn't need to be there for the whole thing.

00:07:32 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. Okay.

00:07:36 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Are you in another meeting now?

00:07:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. I'm done for the day.

00:07:40 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Oh, nice.

00:07:43 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
I'm I have a meeting, but I'm gonna

00:07:45 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
give me a few minutes.

00:07:48 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Is your door closed?

00:07:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Let me close it. Are you all good? It said workforce. Yeah.

00:08:03 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
So we had a close call on a hacking thing yesterday

00:08:14 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:08:15 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
That I'm gonna share with you. Matt Howard doesn't want me to talk about it to this level of detail, but I'm gonna tell you anyways just because I always I don't know. I feel like you're my person I tell stuff to, and then it's, like, it's been just, like, kinda freaking me out. But so Matt reached out to me yesterday afternoon on Teams and said that, like what did he say? He just said, expect an NDA today from Michael Collier via DocuSign. Confidential project. He will read you in, and then we can discuss Birgit project. He is with late Latham and Watkins LLP in France. I was like, okay. Thanks for the heads up. So then I get this phone call on WhatsApp, like, woah, I don't know, thirty minutes later from Michael Collier with Latham Watkins. And he had already sent me docus like, an NDA, DocuSign, all this with those project details and NDA, and then this, like, login to a separate Outlook account.

00:09:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:09:32 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
And and I'm like, okay. This is Matt told me about, like, fine. Whatever. So it's like, I talk and talk to him, and he he tells me about the project. Essentially, like, you know, HQ had tried to acquire this company. It's a publicly traded company back sometime last year. It ended up, like, at the very last minute. Like, it fell through because the owner didn't wanna sell and or the not the owner, but somebody didn't they didn't wanna sell. They decided not to do it. They got the CEO or something decided not to do it because it's public interest. It's not the owner. And so then so, basically, they're, like, planning this, like, hostile takeover where they're trying to buy, like, shares of the stocks. They have this very elaborate thing that, basically, is called this, like, triangulated sale because they wanted to, like, purchase these stocks, like, like, through this, like, I don't know, some SVP. Like, throwing out all kinds of stuff because they don't want them to know. Obviously, they don't want the stock prices to start shooting up, so they're, like, purchasing them. Like and they're planning to fund it through the other these other companies other entities. Right? And so, I mean, it all I mean, it sounded legitimate to me at the time. Right? Like and, again, in my mind, Matt's been involved in this project and is telling me that, like,

00:10:54 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
you know legit or whatever. Yeah.

00:10:56 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
So, like, my radar is, like, you know, like, woah. I'm not, like, thinking anything. And so and so, like, yeah, like, we need you guys to, like, wire money after the the market closes tonight to this, like, SCP account, whatever, blah blah. So he's like he gives me he, like I said, he give me a login to another like, my own login, my name, and a password to this Outlook account. So I had to go to Outlook and then, like, go to another, like, account. And I click on it, and I I get in there. And, like, Birgit had sent me an email about the project, and then there was another email from this guy copying Birgit. And, like, we get to the point of, like, like, wiring this money. And so I, like, you know, I told Matt. I said, like, it's, like, 1,900,000 we need to wire. Like, I need you to talk to Mike about this, Mike Carlson, because I'm not gonna tell Mike and Barb just to wire 1,900,000, like, with you know, just listening to me. Yeah. And so Matt gets on the phone with Mike and tells him about it, all this stuff. And so, like, when they enter the transfer, and then Matt pings me, and he said what did he say? He said something basically like, when do we expect to send the wires? This is a five. But was like, we're working on it now. And he's like, you having any luck? And I question mark. And so that was at five. And then at 0518, he says, you're having any luck. And so then then he calls me at 0518, and he was like, do you think we're getting, like, scammed? And I was like, well, I was like, like, what do you mean? Like, you haven't, like, talked to? And he's like, no. Like, I've just been, like, via, like, WhatsApp. Like, he had, like, gotten contacted via WhatsApp by this person, and then he said something about Bir he had messaged with Birgit on WhatsApp as well from her numb like, it was her number. He was like, do you think this is a scam? And I was like, oh my god, man. I was like, I mean, yeah. Like, I do like, soon as I was like, like, you haven't like, I thought he had been involved in this. Like, so I'm like, holy shit. And I was like, I was like, well, can you, like, get ahold of BeardBH and say, like, I need to, like, speak to you. Yeah. And so he's like, yeah. Like, let me, like whatever. So he, pings her, and, obviously, this is, I mean, they're crying, like, late. So he's like, we're not gonna hear anything until tomorrow. So we didn't do anything. But, like, we were within, like, five minutes of wiring, like, 2,000,000.

00:13:39 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
And

00:13:40 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
I was just, like, shaking. Like like, oh my god. Like, I'm about, like, lost my job, like, in nat two, I guess. I don't know. Like and, I mean, so Matt's, like, super, like, apologetic and, like, all this stuff. And I'm just like I mean, literally, seriously, last night, I was just like, what the hell? But then I had, like you know, obviously, I told Mike and Barbara. Was like, we don't hold on. Like, we don't know if this is legit. Like, da da da. And so, I mean, Matt calls me today. Like, even this morning, he was like, you know, he didn't tell like, he he talked to, like, let her know, like, what happened and all, like, obviously that. And he was just like, you know, don't, like, let Mike and Barb know. Just tell him we're not gonna do this. And I was like, well, I kind of already, like, alluded to, like so when I told Mike, because, I mean, I had to. I was like, mean, we've already kinda talked about it. So I was like, yeah. Like, it was wasn't but I was like, don't say anything. Whatever. So Matt doesn't want me to tell anybody, but I was so freaked out by it. Like and I'm just like, holy shit. This was, like, so close, like, seriously, and very scary. And I so I got a message from Dan this morning because there was, like, a few security got, like, an alert that, you know, it's my something happened on my account. Like, I had clicked out a malicious link. So he, like, checked my computer out and all that. I told him what happened, obviously, not that we got you know, I told him that we log you know, that Matt and I both had created this Outlook account and gotten in there. And so, apparently, he's told Gage about it, but they said there's probably gonna be other stuff that needs to happen, but it sounds like he's not gonna be involved in it. Dan won't be. Obviously, I'm not gonna be here. I so I don't know if there's anything else to worry about. But, anyways, it just was super scary. And

00:15:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. They had my spidey senses went off when you said they had you in a separate Outlook system because I can't think of a single reason why that would be necessary. But

00:15:39 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
And it was so, like, confidential. Like, it has its own Outlook. I mean, getting super, like

00:15:47 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
You did a good job.

00:15:48 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Had Matt not and, I mean, I don't wanna blame Matt, but I'm like, if Matt had not you know? I mean, I think I would I don't think I would have gotten very far into it if I hadn't if Matt hadn't reached out to me. And, like, again, I had just assumed that he'd been, like, talking and involved in this for, like, several months. You know? So it just seemed very, okay. Like yeah.

00:16:16 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I've I've told him he kinda needs to be careful because he's so authoritative at times that he forgets that when he says to do something, sometimes it comes across as an order, you know, and we assume that he vetted it. You know?

00:16:31 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
And I just I mean, yeah. It was a big reminder to me, like, you know, that I also need to ask those questions. Like, hey, Matt. Did you actually talk to a beer guy? Like, did I think it should've been a big sign for him because he's involved in all of this stuff. Like, was like, do you think this thing would've gotten this far and he never knew anything about it? Like, I mean, I was it it could've gotten this far and I didn't know anything about it, but I would be surprised it got that far and he didn't know about it.

00:16:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
It just seems yeah. I mean, I'm glad you guys asked because, like, 1,900,000.0, there's definitely I would have assumed you would have heard something from someone about that and where we're pulling it from and all that. So

00:17:09 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Seems to be okay. You know? That he thought. I I don't know.

00:17:13 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Anyways Oh, man. I'm glad you guys caught it. Jesus.

00:17:16 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Just to get it off of my chest, but also just like, you know, if there's anything we need to still be concerned about or if you know, I don't know if get what gauge and Shawn if Shawn's involved or whatever. But, yeah, if if something needs to be done.

00:17:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
It probably depends on if headquarters pushes back and wants to know more info. So how much did Dan know? Did Dan know

00:17:41 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
I didn't tell him that we were getting ready to send a wire or anything. But, I mean, I told him very clear like, yes. Like, we created this other account, logged into it that I signed to the NDA through DocuSign. With NDA, it was through DocuSign and all that.

00:17:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Okay.

00:17:58 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
So

00:17:58 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
but I also don't know, like, or should we should we be reporting something to authorities or to somebody? Because this was a very I mean, I would say a pretty sophisticated ish scheme. So, you know, is there somebody to report it to or whatever? But

00:18:15 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Let me check. I'll actually ask Tanner because just because of law enforcement just say, hey. In the event of a scam, is that like an FBI task, or is that local law enforcement? Because to me, that sounds like something we might wanna let the local FBI office know about

00:18:29 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
because Yeah.

00:18:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
That's that was an intense setup they had going on. Like, it cost them money to set it up, so they were looking for big payday.

00:18:38 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Yes. So I will I can forward you the NDA, if you I didn't I I opened them yesterday. I think they're safe to open because I think they're early from DocuSign. Well, maybe not. DocuSign, maybe it's not really DocuSign. But, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I really signed to them in something that looks like DocuSign. So but, anyways, you can decide if they should be opened or not opened. I did tell Matt that I was going to tell you

00:19:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay.

00:19:08 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Generally, like, what happened, but not, like, how far or how close of a call it was. So

00:19:13 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I mean

00:19:15 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
never shared that with anybody.

00:19:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
To me, I'm glad I know just because then I can watch for it, you know, otherwise. But, yeah, no. I won't I won't share it. So

00:19:24 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Okay. Anyways, I gotta run

00:19:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
with me. Alright. Enjoy. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:19:29 - [AMITY_SENDAMA]
Alright. Bye.