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00:00:00 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Nothing to tell you. We we did converse about some topics. That was the only thing of, like, hey. He wanted to know more that I I couldn't share. John wanted to know, obviously, a lot about the plan with and why we don't just keep their tech stack. And I just said, it's gotta go to SAP. I don't know how we're gonna take their tech stack to SAP, but that's an option. It's just which one is the worst option. So, I don't think there was anything huge you need to sweat, other than that quick conversation. We did discuss a couple other, like, random items Mhmm. Around move and repair and what's going on in the building. But all of that's just like where we're pulling cable, and we need to move furniture, and those items. Pascal is going to reach out to you about there are several document lockers in repair that he would prefer not to keep the documents. And he wanted to scan them, and I just encouraged him to see if we even need to keep them, period, before we go spend money scanning things. So he's gonna see if we can just get rid of them, I think. But in case he asks you about scanning documents, I mean, I do know of vendors that can do that and do it well, but I just don't know if, like, what he's keeping really even need to mess around with. So Okay. So

00:01:25 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So Yeah. Scanning through my notes and trying to figure out where the hell we are on some of these things because this is my big part of meetings after meetings after meetings. So what's your

00:01:35 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I feel like we're not moving a lot forward on this. But

00:01:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. We're not. Frustrating because we really should be. So what's your current understanding of order processing after no November 1?

00:01:48 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
That nobody's made a decision. Okay. Because Do you feel differently?

00:01:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. I I feel the same, but I feel like other people feel like it's decided, and I can't understand why I feel like it's not other than I

00:02:00 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Well, who who feels like it's decided? Matt Howard?

00:02:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I was trying to find notes where I because I know I wrote down basically a bunch of question marks one day, and I can't find that note. But Yeah.

00:02:11 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Why don't you why don't we just do this? Do you just want me to find time with I don't I feel bad about going around, Angela, but, like, dude, we just need to talk to the guy in marketing. K. If he doesn't know about this I mean, he's the one, in my opinion, who will be able to say, yes. This is on our radar, and we are thinking seventy, thirty, eighty, twenty. Like, that's all I'm looking for is what the odds are.

00:02:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
And you're at home. Right? Yeah. Okay. So, obviously, this conversation doesn't happen. So Amity called me last night about six, and she had just

00:02:47 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
had get coffee, but I'm listening.

00:02:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. She had just had a meeting with Zach from Shaver. And so she informed me that the plan for Angela is still moving forward, meaning she's gonna be told very soon that she no longer has a future here and to move on. And Amity said the likely successor will be Zach.

00:03:12 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Zach Zach is going has somebody been honest with Zach?

00:03:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
As far as which part?

00:03:19 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
He's he's gonna commit suicide. Oh. But he sees he's he there's so many constraints, Scott, that

00:03:27 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
No. I get it.

00:03:29 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I think Zach is a good dude, and I don't disagree with the decision. But I just wanna be clear. Like, if he's gonna come in here and try to buy every product and act a fool, I I think we should really have some conversation with him that, like, dude, there there are, like, lines you're gonna have to paint in. You can't buy every software. We're not a tech startup. Yeah. HQ isn't gonna let you just go up. I'm gonna use this term because it's you and I. They're not gonna let you go to pound pound on their website.

00:03:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Right. Exactly.

00:03:57 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Like, I'm just worried he's biting off something he thinks is a innovative company, and we are not innovative.

00:04:05 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I I so this is super top secret. Like, I think I might be one of three people who knows in North America, so I'm gonna share it because I trust you. Marketing global global is being reorganized. Not even they know that yet. So have you

00:04:22 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
heard this? I've heard yeah. Amity told me this, I think. Okay. Now I wanna be clear. She told me what you just said. That's where it stopped.

00:04:32 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Okay. So Fabian Erdinger, who I actually really like, is now seen by the board as being promoted too fast past where he's competent, which is Uhhuh. Kind of the norm. Right? So I think they're trying to decide what to do with him because he still is seen as valuable. But how do you take someone that you've promoted to be in front of all marketing and then demote him back down and all that? Right?

00:05:02 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Mhmm.

00:05:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So Zach is kinda seen as a true The the board sees Zach as a true partner in the design of the global marketing plan. So I agree with you that as things stand today, that is completely Oh, okay. Statement. But I

00:05:18 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
think Well, with the information you just shared, no, that changes my entire opinion.

00:05:22 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So they're kinda wanting him to help bring so the desire is is that Festool's marketing looks more like Shaker's marketing.

00:05:31 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
That's fair then. Then Zach's the right guy. I agree. I just I thought we were going to put him in Angela's spot and tell him that, like, if what you just said wasn't gonna happen, dude, that guy was gonna

00:05:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. He's gonna hang himself.

00:05:45 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Put his wrist in the bathroom. Yeah. Like, it's gonna be terrible because, like, I can't imagine being handcuffed like that. I mean, IT is handcuffed like that, but we know we knew what we got into.

00:05:58 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Just a second. Tell me I'm on the phone. Yeah. So just keep that totally tight. I mean, I know Amity alluded at least, but that's that is a big deal. Yeah. It's interesting what's going on. It it that's not the only department being reorganized secretly at HQ. I I kinda wanna know what's going on, but I also don't wanna know because I

00:06:26 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
it's gonna be Is IT on that list? Is there any chance that that could be on the list?

00:06:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
It is on the list.

00:06:33 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Okay. But I

00:06:34 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I don't need okay.

00:06:35 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Real quick. I think you and I you and I need

00:06:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
to have a that. So just totally

00:06:39 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Okay. That's fair. We need to strategize about what to do about them. I we when we talked on Tuesday this is not a today conversation, but when we talked on Tuesday, I just was reflecting of, yeah. I'm good waiting till June, but, like, I I really feel like we need to give them a list of things and see if they can accomplish them and see how many come back as nos and build a stronger case. Because I don't I just don't know that we're getting this tenant thing is starting to cloud the overall project, and that is honestly bothering me. Just I'm a very transparent person. Yeah. Because I think they're gonna think this tenant thing is fixing our problems, and it's not. They're not addressing any of the issues.

00:07:27 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Tenant thing wasn't even really the main problem until they brought it up. Right? I mean

00:07:31 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. And so I just I don't know what to say to quantify my frustration on this topic, but, like, we're not this is just gonna I'm afraid this could kinda turn into a year of trying, and then we don't get anything out of it. Like

00:07:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Well, what I have to do is sit down and decide all of what our, like, what our needs and and whether we wanna draw lines in the sand, and then that's we have to start attacking it. Like, we can't

00:07:57 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
do My my opinion has changed, though. I I don't think Matt's interested in going I mean, do you really think the tenant's on the table based on Matt's perspective?

00:08:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I can't read him right now because he's kinda being weird about things.

00:08:12 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. But I feel like that's been the last I I hear you, and I agree. I just think that's the new norm here. I just Ryan actually asked me the other day about this whole joint. He's like, this seems to be kind of a hot mess and change. And I was like, do you know, dude? I said that six months ago, and I just you don't know if the change is gonna start and when the change is gonna stop. Like, it's like bidding on a stock market item. You don't know when the stock market's gonna crash. You don't know when the stock market's gonna soar. So I don't know.

00:08:41 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So what Bernd wants is for us, he wants to be good partners. This I have this he confirmed this to me and that he acknowledges that his team is the barrier. So what he's looking for us to do is be firm and transparent about what we need and why and work with him on how to get it. Okay.

00:09:05 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
And I said I'm game for that.

00:09:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I worry that he's gonna waste my time. Right?

00:09:10 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. That's that's where I'm at right now. And, like, he even made the comment about his security guy. I think his security guy is half the problem. I'm gonna disagree with him that I he can be as competent, but he can be he needs to be reined in. He doesn't answer tickets. He doesn't converse. He he's not collaborative. Like, dude, I'm glad you have a smart security guy. He sucked at his job, though.

00:09:33 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
So the the review is being done by an external party to remove all loyalties and, historical references because the board feels strongly that people have been in positions for a long time, and we just leave them there. And they they said we're not modern enough as a corporation, and I couldn't agree more. Oh,

00:09:55 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I couldn't agree more either. But is the board the people above the two? It's the family. I agree. Or we're losing at a game right now. We're losing at the selling tools game.

00:10:11 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
100. And Clint Chapman, ironically, is actually driving a lot of it because he's over you know, now that he works for Wolfgang directly, Clint's got all these pie high sky ideas and stuff. And the you know, so the

00:10:26 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I heard his AI thing, and I thought to myself, I'll never see that in this company. And as a matter of fact, Christine tried to use it as bearish. She's like, well, Clint's working on this. Dude, I don't have time for what they want. I have time for what can be done, so get my chat turned on.

00:10:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. No shit.

00:10:42 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
So It was funny. Go ahead.

00:10:44 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Sorry. Well, the the good news is coming out of it is the board wants to be a company who can be visionary, and Clint basically said, we'll never be visionary as long as you keep going like we're going. It can't be a no first company. And he goes, I don't care which department you talk about at HQ. They're all no first. Finance, marketing, IT, logistics. You know? We can't ship you product. What do you mean you can't ship us product? Dude, it is fixed.

00:11:10 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Dude, and, like, you're letting people I mean, I'm I know I'm I'm pouring salt in an open wound, but you're letting people do change controls on a Wednesday. I don't think they have a change control process, guy.

00:11:20 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I was dumbed by this. Dumb.

00:11:22 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
I worked in a very large organization. We had changed control every week. And I'll tell you what, it had us downfalls, but had us upswings. And it was Wednesdays at 1100, and I still have a knot in my stomach every time I had to get on that thing and present. It was a 135 of your peers that were looking for a way to blow a hole in the change you're trying to make. And I'll tell you what, man. You came and you were strong on, like, here's when we're doing it. Here's our back out plan. Here's what happens if it goes wrong. And, like, we presented and, dude, I don't see anything like that here. It is just the wild wild. For as tight as the Germans are about stuff, it's the wild wild west on SAP updates. Yeah.

00:12:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I No nobody understands it. So

00:12:07 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
And do you feel like Felix is not working well?

00:12:11 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I don't know what he's doing. You know what I mean?

00:12:15 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Well, he keeps sending information out and talking about things, but I don't I wouldn't say he's leading us great right now. Just opinion. But

00:12:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I I agree. And, honestly, I'm disappointed in Marcus a little bit because he was so great for so long, and I don't know if he's just been beaten to the sand or

00:12:36 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
He's be he's been beaten to the sand. Marcus and I had a good conversation last week. He he basically said, dude, I'm sorry. I'm I'm he didn't use these words, but he told me he's shitting the bed on everything. And he goes, I will get Pascal what he needs. I'm sorry. We're at the barrier. He goes, it is just it is bad times right now. I think there's a component of this that is the culture at HQ, and I've talked to Vera and and Pascal a bit about that, but I don't think the culture at HQ is good. No. And I think it I think you take that on top of the s four project. I think I think the wheels are just coming off. And I I just worry that, yeah, I worry about a lot of it. Again, Wolframan I mean, I met I met with Wolfram today. Do what?

00:13:27 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I said there's not one thing going well. Like, not one. Like, everything's a dumpster fire. I agree.

00:13:32 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
And I think I think burns beat down.

00:13:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
That but that's why I wanted to tell you I wasn't I debated whether I passed along the IT thing, but I think it's important that we know

00:13:43 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
That's

00:13:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
good. That they've at least nodded to us and said, just yes. Now what I don't know and what I wanna know is what's the timeline? If you tell me this is a two year process that I'm giving up because I don't have two years to care. You know? But if it takes six months, I can get behind that. So

00:13:59 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Are they interviewing people, or, like, what's their methodology here?

00:14:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I so I haven't really heard about how they're doing it yet. I know it's gonna become public, at least at the management level, pretty soon, and they're gonna wanna talk to us and everything. So, like, you, Gage, and I will have to get our shit together too and make sure we that's kinda what I was saying earlier is I wanna get a list of what we need, what we want, why, you know, so that we can really pitch it.

00:14:24 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. But Yeah. Hey. Okay. Fair. I was gonna ask you a question. I realized it's more of a one on one question, and we cannot talk tomorrow. I wanna chat about Ronnie tomorrow Okay. Just so you know. I I'm getting an inclination from a lot of people that there's frustration there, and I'm just curious if you get that a lot.

00:14:48 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I get it from Matt Howard, but not from Casey as much, and that confuses me.

00:14:56 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah.

00:14:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
But let's let's chat. I wanna hear what you have to say. So

00:15:00 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah. I'm just curious. Okay. I I felt it from burn pretty hard.

00:15:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Well, after what Ronnie did, I agree. And Ronnie kinda has a history of being

00:15:11 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Yeah.

00:15:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Wild, I guess. I don't know how to how I'd

00:15:14 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
say it. I'm gonna guess he I'm gonna guess he and Matt got a whole lot.

00:15:18 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Yeah. I don't

00:15:21 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
know. Just to stay. Alright. I'll leave you alone, man. I don't think I have anything else. If you get a contract to send me, I would appreciate it. I just I need to get that company locked in for

00:15:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
a minute. About that. Okay. Yeah. I'll get it to you. Oh, you went on mute.

00:15:37 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Oh, I I said I assumed, and you've had a shitty week. There's no judgment, man. I'm just just asking for things I need. That's all.

00:15:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. Yesterday, I was sitting in a hospital trying to have calls while doctors I was fighting with that doctor. So yeah.

00:15:48 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Have you yeah. I just feel like I mean, this is an opinion I probably shouldn't share with you, but have you thought, like, what you can hand off to, like, others on your team. Like, it just feels like you should be with your family a lot more, man. Not sharing. But

00:16:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Yeah. I'm figure out how to do it. I mean, honestly, you've shouldered a lot, and Vera kinda was, but she's I gotta figure out what's going on. Not not nothing bad. Just she's not helping as much as I kind of was hoping she would, but I don't know why. I don't know if it's too much right now or if it's the Tanner transition or what's going on.

00:16:22 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
So Yeah. I'll be honest with you. I've not quite figured out her as a whole. Like, the fifteen minute meetings thing, I kinda was like, really?

00:16:33 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
I

00:16:36 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
was thinking Dude, I've I've got a dump I've got a dump I got a dumpster fire of issues, and I'm just thinking, can we not just email you? Like, you ask us, and then we email you back, and we call that a day. Like, I'm not trying to

00:16:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
She did say that that's probably the plan going forward. She just wanted to offer support to anybody for these first ones. So we can always knock the IT ones out. So if you don't feel happy to do it.

00:16:59 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
But We're gonna I mean, if you wanna know, we're gonna more than exceed that, I think. I just don't want the commitment in the first round until we get an idea what's what. Yeah. But alright. We'll chat tomorrow, man. Have a good one.

00:17:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER]
Alright, brother. Take care. We'll see.

00:17:13 - [SHAWN_REMICK]
Later.