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00:00:01 - [STEVE_WADE] Or we have some concern. Confidential. 00:00:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So this has to stay in the room. Like, please don't share this outside of this room 00:00:07 - [STEVE_WADE] with anybody. 00:00:08 - [LISA_LAW] I know. I don't share that one. 00:00:10 - [STEVE_WADE] I can attest to that. We don't know that there's anything going on. We wanna see if you can help us understand. We have some concerns about Diana. Do you know of anything going on in her personal life lately that's 00:00:28 - [NORA_RUSH] She's just having a rough time because she's here by herself. She she don't have family here. And she's just been dealing with her car because she get a car, and she have nothing but problems. And she went and changed it for a different one, and I guess she kept having problems. So it's just thing to other thing every day. Yesterday, she said that she was late because she had a problem with her car, and she gotta go early yesterday. Right? She left. Because she said that she gotta fix some problems that I have to do with her car. 00:01:07 - [STEVE_WADE] Okay. 00:01:09 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Do you know does she have anyone in her life that she is either dating or or in involved with in any way that you know of? She's She's Okay. 00:01:21 - [NORA_RUSH] Dating somebody. Yeah. I know that she got a boyfriend, but what I know is that he's not from here. I think he lived, like, two hours from here. Because I think he was telling us they have plans that they're gonna marry and move on from here, which I'm kinda concerned because she's alone here, and she just met this person not too long ago. 00:01:47 - [STEVE_WADE] So her sister and all over that she had told us her sister was living with her and going to Purdue. 00:01:53 - [NORA_RUSH] Just come visit. I think she was not here for a while. But she's renting just with a, like, friend from church, I guess. Yeah. 00:02:03 - [STEVE_WADE] Have you met her boyfriend? 00:02:05 - [NORA_RUSH] No. Well, the thing is that she used to live in Frankfurt before, and she moved to Lafayette. So now that she moved to Lafayette, I don't see her much. I was supposed to do in Frankfurt. So now it just it's just but when I ask her things and she tell me that 00:02:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] This is just an opinion question, but does she seem okay to you? 00:02:29 - [STEVE_WADE] Like, no? 00:02:30 - [NORA_RUSH] No. 00:02:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER] No. We're concerned. 00:02:32 - [STEVE_WADE] So So so you probably noticed she dresses differently now than she used to. 00:02:37 - [NORA_RUSH] I noticed that. 00:02:38 - [STEVE_WADE] She dresses more like a female her age dress. It's not a it's not but it's just different for her. 00:02:44 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. She's just being different all all the time. She's just a happy person. 00:02:57 - [STEVE_WADE] What has she told you about her boyfriend? Where he's from or any background? Well, 00:03:04 - [NORA_RUSH] she only said that she met the guy because I think she had an aunt. They lived, like, couple hours from here when she go there in the holidays, and I think she met the guy there. I don't know much about the guy. She just showed me a picture. She said that she they were doing good. That they're gonna they're thinking about moving together. I was like, you don't think it's too early because, I mean, you just met the guy. 00:03:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Can you describe what would what's he look like? 00:03:33 - [NORA_RUSH] I don't remember. I just see the picture once. 00:03:36 - [STEVE_WADE] Did you could you tell I mean, is he Hispanic, you think? 00:03:42 - [NORA_RUSH] Or He's Hispanic. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's just hard with her because she always tell you different things. Yeah. She told you one thing, and she will tell you a different thing. And it's just hard to know what's which one is the truth. 00:04:01 - [SCOTT_WARNER] She's 20. 00:04:01 - [NORA_RUSH] I think so. And, like, most of the time, I take it as she's young. You know? Maybe she don't want anybody to know what's really happening in her life, and she just make stories, whatever. I make it I mean, I don't take it too serious, but I can force her to tell me things that she don't want to because I'm just a friend. You know? I mean 00:04:19 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That's It's our position too as we wanna make sure she's okay, but we're we can't we can't do much. Yes. 00:04:25 - [NORA_RUSH] And It's hard to it's hard to do that. Because when she got the shoes, she said I was like, well, they wanna know if you have an extra pair in your car. She's like, no. I don't have any extra pair. And I think at lunch, 00:04:36 - [LISA_LAW] she had, like, tennis shoes 00:04:37 - [NORA_RUSH] or whatever. And I was like, I thought you said you didn't have any new car. She's like, oh, I called somebody to bring me some. I was like, who's gonna come all over here to bring you shoes? Her shoes. That was her shoes. And she said that somebody drive over here. I was like, who? He said, oh, just a friend. And there's always just a friend. Just a friend. But, yeah, I don't know. 00:05:01 - [STEVE_WADE] That was odd, that start up meeting when I looked over and saw those shoes. Was This was last Friday. But she said she had to go somewhere after. 00:05:10 - [NORA_RUSH] Well, because I see her shirt too. That was a nice one. I was like, that's how you got to work. She said, yeah. I was like, it looks like you went to a party or something. 00:05:19 - [STEVE_WADE] That's more like how you dress 00:05:20 - [NORA_RUSH] for work. 00:05:23 - [LISA_LAW] I'm not sure. 00:05:26 - [NORA_RUSH] But, yeah, I'm kinda concerned about her too. But like I said, there's not that much that I can do because, I mean, if she don't let you help or be honest about things, there is nothing that we can do. You know? 00:05:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Is there anyone else that she's close to at all that would know anything, do you think? 00:05:41 - [NORA_RUSH] Not really. She's very just, like, our like a family. Because sometimes when you're far away from your family and living that long, sometimes you make bad decisions, and nobody's there to telling you, you know, you're doing something bad. So that's I mean, I feel like it's more than she's alone here, and she even if she know that she's making bad decisions, there is nobody to tell her no Yeah. Or nobody to stop her to do bad things. So she's like, why not? You know? But other than that, I mean, she's a good person. 00:08:12 - [STEVE_WADE] Does she no longer go to the church in Lafayette, or you don't know? 00:08:16 - [NORA_RUSH] Well, the last time that I talked to her about that, she said that she was not going as much as before. Because before, it was even around the week. She was always stuck in church, like, three, four days a week. And now I think I think she's not going that much anymore. I don't know if they have to do with the boyfriend and because, I mean, she's I think she said the boyfriend go to the church too. They they have the same religion. So, I mean yeah. I don't know. 00:08:47 - [LISA_LAW] Any idea how long she's been dating the 00:08:50 - [NORA_RUSH] Couple months. Okay. Yeah. I think it's couple months. But it's just I mean, it's difficult just because she said that he's not from here, but it looks like most of the time, she said that he she's hanging out with him. And I'm like, I don't feel like that he's gonna drive two hours every day to come over here. Mhmm. And she was thinking about leaving the job too. She said that she had plans to maybe she was not sure about it, but she said that once she's sure she's gonna talk to you guys about it, but she was thinking she said, I'm not I'm not sure if she say this month or next month. But she said she's gonna move on with a guy. And I was like I even told her. I was like, don't think it's a good decision that you're gonna move with somebody that you don't know. And 00:09:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Never leave for a guy. It's a bad idea. 00:09:33 - [NORA_RUSH] Yes. And I agree on that one. But yeah. So I don't know. 00:09:41 - [STEVE_WADE] Not everybody has a fairy tale story like you. 00:09:46 - [NORA_RUSH] What do you mean with that? You 00:09:49 - [STEVE_WADE] don't know what I mean. 00:09:51 - [NORA_RUSH] But, yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna call her in a minute and see if she's okay, though, because she's not here. 00:10:00 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] What do you think about that? 00:10:01 - [NORA_RUSH] I I normally always As 00:10:02 - [SCOTT_WARNER] long as you just say, I I know she's aware. 00:10:04 - [NORA_RUSH] Her message when she's not here asking if she's okay. That's normal. That's normal. It's not just today. 00:10:09 - [SCOTT_WARNER] If if you don't mind, is there any way you could let Nathan know that if whether she's you think she's okay or not if you talk to her? 00:10:15 - [LISA_LAW] Yeah. That's fine. 00:10:17 - [NORA_RUSH] I always normally, when she's late or something like that, I always send her message. 00:10:20 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] This is do you text her 00:10:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] in Spanish or English? Spanish. 00:10:26 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Okay. I want I just wanna know because I 00:10:28 - [SCOTT_WARNER] just wanna know how the text response is. Yeah. See if it seems normal, if you don't mind. 00:10:35 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] If you think, like, if it's, like, normal. 00:10:37 - [STEVE_WADE] If it's normal, it'll 00:10:38 - [NORA_RUSH] be honest. 00:10:38 - [LISA_LAW] If it sounds like her, basically, is what we're asking because, you know, we're we're just overall concerned 00:10:44 - [NORA_RUSH] about her. Is it because she's missing work or what? A little more things? I just because she's over a lot of stuff. I mean, I don't know where else she kept going on outside because, like I said, I don't hang out with her that much, but it's just here at work. And, I mean, I know her because she used to live with my sister for a while, and that's when I get close to her. But 00:11:12 - [STEVE_WADE] Raghavendra doesn't hear from her anymore? Mhmm. Raghavendra doesn't hear from her anymore? 00:11:16 - [NORA_RUSH] Talk to her anymore. She just talked to me. Yeah. They talked to when she lived in there, but when she moved, they stopped talking. I mean, they they was never friends. She just ran 00:11:26 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] the room 00:11:26 - [NORA_RUSH] to her. Yeah. And other than that, just with me. Sometimes Fridays, we hang out after work. Me, her with Andrea and Augustina. We just go out and eat, got a drink. But she just looked normal to me. Like, she's always laughing and for everything. I mean yeah. But it's it's it's just hard to know about her life because, like I said, she always say a lot of things, and it's just hard to know what's true and why she just making it up in the minute. Like, it's just hard. 00:12:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. Deferred her. She's not in trouble. We're just concerned. We just wanna make sure she's safe. I mean, I have a 20 year old daughter. I would hope someone did that for her. So you know? 00:12:07 - [STEVE_WADE] Yeah. It's just that her behavior has been just unusual, different for her. 00:12:12 - [NORA_RUSH] I feel like, honestly, I feel like it have to do with the man that she's now. Like, she's dating that man. It's making she's changing a lot of her personality for that man. Because, I mean, you guys know how she dressed before, and now she dressed like a different person. And I noticed that too, the the way that she's dressing right now. Because before her religion, she had to be covering most of her body, and now she's dressing up like I mean, most of her normal. But, yeah, normal. Yeah. And that was not going very well with her religion. And maybe that's the reason why she's going like, it's, like, not going I feel like she's just not in that religion 100 anymore. And I feel like maybe it have to do with a man because when she didn't have a boyfriend, she was there. And now that she got a boyfriend, a lot of things are changing. So, I mean, I don't know the man, but, yeah, it's just her. Okay. 00:13:10 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I guess, you know, obviously, you don't share anything that you don't feel comfortable, but if you just if you don't mind letting us know if you think she's okay or not just so we can we wanna offer her help, but we don't wanna intrude. It's kind of this weird balance of when someone's not at work, we don't have a responsibility, but I have a moral obligation to make sure she's okay. So you know? 00:13:29 - [LISA_LAW] Yeah. I 00:13:30 - [NORA_RUSH] mean, she's just going through a lot, honestly. She just it was a lot of bad things that happened to her when she come here, when she was living with just some strangled people. And it's just a lot of stuff going on with her life, and I don't know if all that have to do with how she's acting right now. And Yeah. And being alone here, I mean, it's hard being here without nobody. I mean, literally nobody. She's just with friends, people that she know from church. Yeah. The people that was in charge of church, they're supposed to help on her, but I feel like they were just taking advantage of her. And then it's I mean, she's just trying to figure out a life for herself, and she's young. I always ask her my help. I mean, she just wanna be a big girl and do it all on her own. I mean, I always tell her, like, we're here. If you need anything, just let us know. You know? But like I said, now that she moved to Lafayette, it's kinda hard to know what she's doing with everything. You know? When I was in Frankfurt, it was good because she live with my sister, so we know if somebody picked her up or she she left for a couple days or she come back. But now we don't know nothing. Yeah. 00:14:39 - [STEVE_WADE] She was very independent. 00:14:42 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. And I thought she said that she had a part time in McDonald's sometimes, so she's just working a lot too. 00:14:49 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Here in town? 00:14:49 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. 00:14:52 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Never got McDonald's. I wouldn't know. 00:14:54 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. She said that she had a friend there that she was covering shifts for her sometimes. It it was not like an everyday thing. It was just hidden there. Mhmm. But I think last week, she said that she stopped working there because the friend is no longer working there, something like that. So she's like, there's no more reason for me to go there. But, yeah, just today, she looked okay. I mean, she was just saying that she had trouble with her car. And since she just couple weeks ago, she just gave a new car because the old one, it was giving her trouble. She said the she didn't have a insurance on it. So she said that she had problems with the 65, and she could pull over at the same time. And she get in trouble because she didn't have insurance and all that. So she said, I'm just gonna go get off at lunch so I can go figure out fix all things about my car because they told me that I gotta fix, like, the entrance and all that shit for her car. 00:15:49 - [STEVE_WADE] Oh, okay. So it wasn't mechanical issues. It was 00:15:53 - [NORA_RUSH] It was that. But when she was out on those street, like, the cop come yeah. South Sedalia. 00:15:59 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] A while back. No. 00:16:01 - [NORA_RUSH] No. Yesterday. 00:16:02 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] It's got pulled over yesterday? 00:16:04 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. Not pulled over. When she had trouble with her car, figuring out the cop get there. And they stop asking her for her documents, whatever, and she don't have 00:16:13 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. I'm not following, though. Yesterday, she left here. 00:16:18 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I think this is in the morning on the way here. 00:16:20 - [NORA_RUSH] In the morning when she came late. She said that was the reason because I asked her what happened when she was late. She said because I had an issue with my car. Start she was driving, and it's like having issues with her car. And she got it pulled on the side. When she Four five or Yeah. And when that happened, the cab get there. Okay. And it's asking for her information, whatever, and she didn't have any of the insurance and all that stuff. So the cab. And so you see, she get pulled up before two, hit 11AM. So I don't know how she's doing in that part. So she they asked her that she gotta have her stuff, like, yeah. Good. So she said, I'm just gonna go out lunch. That's what she told me just a bit. I'm gonna go out lunch so I can go fix all these problems with my car and put an insurance on and all that stuff because I'm gonna get in trouble if I don't. And that's the last thing that I hear from her. 00:17:16 - [STEVE_WADE] Okay. She's probably due for plates by now too. Okay. And you can't get plates without 00:17:22 - [NORA_RUSH] any And it's just hard when she's here because the plate is closed by the time that you get up and all that. I mean yeah. Yeah. Okay. So but I'm gonna send her a message and see if she's doing okay. Like I said Okay. This is not just that I gotta do that. Wanna tell when she's late or whatever. Yeah. 00:17:38 - [STEVE_WADE] I don't know. I really appreciate that. 00:17:40 - [LISA_LAW] Yeah. Thank you for reaching out and just making sure she's okay, especially now knowing what happened yesterday with with her vehicle. Yeah. 00:17:50 - [STEVE_WADE] Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate 00:17:52 - [NORA_RUSH] it. Thanks. Thanks, Nora. Yep. If I know anything, I'll leave us know. 00:17:57 - [LISA_LAW] Thank you. 00:18:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That makes some things line up a little more difficult 00:18:05 - [STEVE_WADE] for in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It makes sense because if she's I thought mechanical issues, which there are apparently some mechanical issues, but then there's the documentation issues. This guy that called you was likely your boyfriend. The accent 00:18:19 - [SCOTT_WARNER] It's hard 00:18:20 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] to tell. Maybe. 00:18:21 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I mean It 00:18:21 - [STEVE_WADE] was a fifty second conversation. Yeah. I mean 00:18:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, and she saw a picture one time. Indian could look Hispanic in certain situations. 00:18:30 - [TANNER_LONG] She's undoubtedly probably being taken advantage of in some way, shape, or form to be changing as drastic as she is, but it's just a question of 00:18:39 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, the bad decision history sounds like maybe a pattern thing of she's alone. She picks the wrong kind of people. 00:18:49 - [TANNER_LONG] And The way she started alluding at that made me I I outsider looking in made me think of drug stuff. 00:18:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I thought drug stuff. That's for you. 00:18:58 - [TANNER_LONG] So I don't know if she started dabbling for a while and then maybe stepped away. Maybe this guy is 00:19:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER] pushing the point. Do we wait, or do you think we wanna check his ideal at this point? Or I don't mind waiting if we think Nora can hear something. 00:19:15 - [TANNER_LONG] Yeah. It's I mean, it's a catch 22 because she's gonna probably build the picture that it was us. Because if she really has no one other than Nora and Nora texts her and she texts back 00:19:28 - [SCOTT_WARNER] No. She says that's normal, though. So maybe 00:19:30 - [STEVE_WADE] I believe that she does 00:19:32 - [TANNER_LONG] Yeah. Checkin on So she's gonna know whether checked 00:19:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER] in on all the young 00:19:37 - [STEVE_WADE] ones out there, the dinner crew or whatever you wanna call it. Yeah. 00:19:44 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Didn't know anything about the cop pulling her over 00:19:48 - [STEVE_WADE] yesterday or if I didn't take 00:19:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, that sounds more legit, though, at least, the trouble piece. Because I kept trying to figure out 00:19:54 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] what That's what was saying. When she said that and she said she was gonna get 00:19:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER] in trouble. Okay. That lined up there. Yeah. That wording lined up. 00:20:00 - [TANNER_LONG] So wouldn't she wouldn't have gotten any tickets from that. But very I mean, depending I mean, if it's a trooper that knows how to use his words, he probably could've spun things. 00:20:10 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So you don't get a ticket for not having an insurance? 00:20:11 - [TANNER_LONG] She went driving. 00:20:12 - [SCOTT_WARNER] She's parked on 00:20:13 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] the side of road. 00:20:15 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Parked. Okay. 00:20:16 - [TANNER_LONG] So you But you can 00:20:18 - [STEVE_WADE] be parked on the side of the road with your keys in the ignition. 00:20:20 - [SCOTT_WARNER] They they have to see you driving it. And then you're gonna be 00:20:23 - [TANNER_LONG] That's that's credible. So that's the catch there. And it depends on the state. In Indiana, I've charged it, but that's the only that's called a misdemeanor exception. So you can crash your car and that's why they had to open it up because if you wrap your truck around a tree Yeah. And you're twice the legal limit, if it was the same as everything else, you'd be like, I didn't seem to drive. So you can win tonight. 00:20:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER] We're thinking out and getting the passenger seat. He's 00:20:51 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Well, you gotta have a driver. Right? Well, it depends. He ran. 00:20:54 - [TANNER_LONG] If you're if you're in Boone County, might have better luck because the prosecutor doesn't have the fortitude to 00:21:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Stand up good. 00:21:01 - [TANNER_LONG] Follow through sometimes. I may or may not have had that argument a few times. 00:21:06 - [STEVE_WADE] The back to Diana and and I think with Nora's help that fills in some gaps in this 00:21:15 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. 00:21:15 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I feel a little bit better now. I still think she's being taken advantage of by this guy probably, but 00:21:19 - [STEVE_WADE] I I think the difference in behavior is the boyfriend. Yeah. The influence of the boyfriend and the moving in away from the apostolic that was how you say it. 00:21:28 - [LISA_LAW] Apostolic? 00:21:29 - [STEVE_WADE] Apostolic church she was going to. She had told me that. 00:21:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I don't know now because that a are they more strict religion or something? 00:21:38 - [STEVE_WADE] Or I think it depends on the yeah. 00:21:42 - [TANNER_LONG] Sounds like it in this case. 00:21:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, in this case, it sounded like it, but it I I wanted to ask, but I didn't wanna ask. 00:21:47 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So Well, you got emails from me before. 00:21:50 - [STEVE_WADE] That was a strange thing in Averend. It's been a long time that Last year? The pastor sent me an email asking if she could take off to do a church event. Like So I 00:22:02 - [SCOTT_WARNER] but I wonder if that's her saying, I don't wanna ask. Can you ask for me kind of 00:22:06 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] a situation. 00:22:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. So the situation was she did ask Yeah. 00:22:09 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] She was out of PTO. 00:22:10 - [STEVE_WADE] Oh, okay. Okay. She had no PTO. 00:22:12 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So she got got denied because she had no PTO. Yep. She went to them. They went to Steve. 00:22:18 - [TANNER_LONG] Okay. 00:22:19 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] She ended up going she changed some of her PTO around that she already had scheduled out because she was just from Guatemala for in December. She canceled that. I don't think I don't know if she ever went to Guatemala in December. 00:22:29 - [STEVE_WADE] I didn't respond to 00:22:30 - [LISA_LAW] her Yeah. 00:22:31 - [STEVE_WADE] Pastor. I I went to Diana. I'm not gonna deal with her pastor, but, I mean, it that that's abnormal. 00:22:38 - [LISA_LAW] Well and that also could be a little bit of, Nathan, to your point, her believing that her English might be better than it really is and just not fully understanding like, okay. It was denied because I don't have enough PTO here, and feeling like, well, if I went to somebody else to ask, may maybe they'll get a different different answer. 00:22:59 - [STEVE_WADE] Or yeah. I don't know. She went back and said I can't do 00:23:02 - [NORA_RUSH] it. Yeah. 00:23:02 - [STEVE_WADE] And then yeah. Okay. But 00:23:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, I guess for now, let's hold. You let us know if she has anything to add to it, and then I think if she either doesn't answer or she feels that their response is unusual, then maybe that's when we proceed to the next step. 00:23:20 - [TANNER_LONG] Yeah. Or if she no call, no shows again tomorrow 00:23:23 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:23:23 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Then we were a little more. So 00:23:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, she generally call or text. Right? 00:23:28 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. So the phone call was odd. First of all, because, obviously, I didn't know the number either. 00:23:33 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. It's not 00:23:33 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] I probably will I like I told you, I wish I'd let it go to voice mail. So now that there was a voice mail recording of it 00:23:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Maybe if they call tonight, know I'm 00:23:42 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] not knowing the answer. If you you think that's a good idea, we'll it go to voice mail so it seems that it's voice mail so now it's on tape. 00:23:48 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. And then but do let us know if she call texts again and says I'm out. Because you did tell her the process is that she has to do it. 00:23:56 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So Yeah. Unless you're unable to, like, get up to the hospital. 00:23:59 - [LISA_LAW] Yeah. If you're in the hospital or something, which I I would believe that that's 00:24:03 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Honestly, I don't know. That protocol is kinda talking to my ass on that, but I was just trying to not get in the 00:24:08 - [TANNER_LONG] From a legality standpoint, you can record those phone calls as well. If it comes to a point where we feel like we need to do something like that, it it really, we should probably be getting law enforcement involved then. But if if for some reason you answered when you called her back and had another phone recording, you're not breaking any laws. Company policy, I don't think I didn't see anything in there about it. 00:24:33 - [STEVE_WADE] We're working on that. But 00:24:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Indiana and one party stayed in the 00:24:37 - [NORA_RUSH] list? Mhmm. Yep. 00:24:37 - [TANNER_LONG] So that's why as long as one party knows. But I like to just, like, a voice mail. Yeah. 00:24:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I I do in this case because then you're off the hook too. So Yeah. 00:24:47 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Was hoping that when I sent that text message to her phone that she would actually call me. 00:24:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That's what I would have liked to have seen. 00:24:52 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] And then, obviously, you saw the response. Yeah. And this would his response to me was still it's still it's too perfect. Can 00:25:00 - [NORA_RUSH] you FaceTime. 00:25:01 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Request if this happens again tonight, can he say, can you call me and and request a a voice conversation about this? I mean, you can. Right? Because text didn't used to be I used to require employees to call me off to be off. 00:25:13 - [STEVE_WADE] Rebecca, that was Rebecca's requirement. I got it required. And then Michelle said texting was fine, and then I don't know. I and I think texting is fine. 00:25:25 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Is easier. I get it. I'm just saying in this situation, I I just wanna make sure we hear her voice at some point. So 00:25:33 - [STEVE_WADE] In this situation, I agree. And we've received Facebook, I'm from people before. 00:25:41 - [SCOTT_WARNER] It just gets to a point, especially with a young woman where it can be too late to get involved, and I don't wanna get there. So 00:25:47 - [STEVE_WADE] I agree. But putting everything together, I think it's just the influence of 00:25:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Right now, I feel a lot better than we walked into the room. 00:25:56 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Oh, concerned. I I'm 00:25:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER] concerned about her lung her safety. 00:26:00 - [LISA_LAW] But Yeah. 00:26:01 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Right now, I think it's more bad decisions. 00:26:04 - [STEVE_WADE] She had told me last year that the reason why she was having trouble getting here on time was that her sister was living with her younger sister and that she was taking classes at Purdue and she had to take her to school. But then Nora says that's 00:26:20 - [LISA_LAW] not Sounds 00:26:20 - [SCOTT_WARNER] like there's a lot of half stories with this young lady, which isn't unusual for some people. But 00:26:26 - [NORA_RUSH] yeah. 00:26:26 - [STEVE_WADE] And young and in new place. 00:26:32 - [SCOTT_WARNER] And You when I was in college, I used to miss work all the time for the most amazing reasons. So Well 00:26:40 - [LISA_LAW] I will say if if you hear from Nora, obviously, let us know. I'm probably also gonna check to see who she would have listed as, like, her emergency 00:26:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER] contacts. Okay. 00:26:51 - [LISA_LAW] Just to see, like, who just so that we know, like, hey. If if something by this afternoon doesn't smell right, you know, just figuring out who she would have listed as her emergency contact. 00:27:05 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So the conversations, like, the one last night, it was almost 0800. And then that Sunday when she said she'd be in, that was almost 0800 too. Okay. They're both been pretty late. I don't know about you. I go we go 00:27:16 - [SCOTT_WARNER] to bed pretty early. By nine, there's a risk that I've gone to bed. We're 00:27:22 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] laying down because we put our kids in bed at 0730. So we're already in bed watching TV, and then by the time the episode's over, we're going to bed. Yeah. 00:27:28 - [STEVE_WADE] When you reach out to me, if Miles hadn't been there, I would've been in bed. So 00:27:31 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Well, when it came through and I was texting you and I told him, I was like, man, he's probably in bed. She's like, he goes to bed early. I said, hell, he's probably been in bed for two hours. 00:27:39 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I was sitting at a restaurant with a bowl in front of me. Sometimes to use that. Yeah. It's I need to get up this early every day. 00:27:48 - [NORA_RUSH] I get it. Mhmm. 00:27:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. Well, I gotta get to work, but I just I appreciate it. I I do. I appreciate you guys care 00:27:55 - [LISA_LAW] and Absolutely. 00:27:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Check on that. But let 00:27:58 - [STEVE_WADE] us a situation with Diana. Diana came to us through the tenth day. You see, if you look at me in a couple of years ago, and she was referred by Nora. She came over she came to US from Guatemala, and she was renting a room for Nora's sister. So we referred her to Ellerwood, and Ellerwood reached out. And, of course, we we brought her on board that they had mentioned that or asked if it was okay that for religious reasons, she dresses like a denim dress with pants on or anything like that. So that's fine. Yeah. Sure. So for all that time, she was for most of the time, she was very reliable, rarely called in, one of the better performers. At some point, she moved to Lafayette out on her own. Because of the commute, she started having some issues with being tardy, but still, for the most part, was here. 00:29:05 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] I believe she had 23 tardies 00:29:07 - [STEVE_WADE] this last year. Yeah. So that started. And then this year, she's just been putting in odd last minute time off request and then canceling the request and been an ongoing issue. But in addition to that, not that this may or may not have anything to do with it, her appearance has changed. She's dressing like a girl her age would dress normally. How how old roughly? Twenties? She's a 320. 00:29:37 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] I believe she's just 20. Just 00:29:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER] 20. 00:29:38 - [STEVE_WADE] She was, like, 18 when she started. 00:29:40 - [NORA_RUSH] Right. Okay. 00:29:41 - [STEVE_WADE] So she's starting to dress. Like, yesterday, she came in. First time she wore these I think they're probably black denim pants. I don't know Mhmm. That they had the cuts all down the front of them. It's not like her. Last week, she walked in with glittery silver slippers with open top. Like, her foot wasn't covered. It was bizarre. She said she had to go somewhere after work. Her shirt matched. It had the anyway. So we had to reassign her until she had a friend bring her a pair of shoes because she didn't have shoes. The shoes weren't appropriate for work. Yeah. 00:30:19 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] And then 00:30:21 - [STEVE_WADE] I'll let Nathan take over, but he he received a message from her Sunday? 00:30:28 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. Received a message from her Sunday, originally. Is 00:30:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER] it generally acceptable for an employee to text, or do you ask them to call? 00:30:39 - [STEVE_WADE] Texting is fine. Okay. And to let us know if you have an emergency last minute, but if you don't let us know by Friday that you went off Monday, then it's an unexcused answer. Okay. So 00:30:50 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Which 00:30:50 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] I honestly, texting is the most better than this in writing. Yeah. 00:30:54 - [NORA_RUSH] Yeah. 00:30:55 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Oh my god. I like No. 00:30:57 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I I get it. It's just this situation would be more interesting 00:31:00 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] if 00:31:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER] we 00:31:00 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] call voices. So Diana's English is hard to understand, and that's saying a lot. Like, she thinks I'm not sounding she thinks she can speak English, but it's Still You can't understand her. 00:31:13 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. Sorry. I'm just curious what the Okay. Cover. 00:31:19 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So she it was let me make I'm on Sunday now. She asked if she could on Sunday, she asked if she could have tomorrow off. This is at 1020 in the morning for Monday, saying she has some personal documents. She has some complications finishing. I wanna know if it's possible to have tomorrow or on Monday off. So I said that would be an excused absence. This is last second. We're gonna be very busy starting to launch. And I said, it's your PTO. It'll just go on as a calling day. So didn't tell her no. Just told her, you know, what the situation was. She says, I understand. And then she said, would it be possible for me to show up at 11AM? Okay. Yes. That's better than, you know, than missing the whole darn day. And then later on that night, almost at 0800, she said I had some changes to her appointments. I can show tomorrow at normal time. So she showed up at normal time yesterday. So she got here in the morning late because of the rose because she come from Lafayette. Then after she got here, she come to me and asked me if she could leave at three. And I'm pretty confident if she said three because I even held the fingers three. And after lunch, I was looking for her and couldn't find her because I was supposed switch her her task for the day because we were getting heavy on packing. Well, I couldn't find her. Chris went and looked. I looked everywhere. Couldn't find her. So I looked at paperwork. She clocked out 1130 at lunch and never came back. Didn't hear from her. I don't think I can get 1130 at three messed up on. Yeah. 00:32:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Just because I don't know our system. Does it right. When you clock out for lunch, is it lunch, or is it clock out and then you clock out? Okay. Because some places you have a lunch button. 00:32:50 - [STEVE_WADE] So lunch. Yeah. I 00:32:51 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] don't know. I believe that is an option on there, but everybody just clocks in and out. 00:32:55 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I'm just curious. Because you park out clock out for lunch and never never come back, that's different than 00:33:00 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. Just trying to determine clock. Yeah. I believe that's that's actually what it pops up. It just says 00:33:06 - [STEVE_WADE] But because of the language barrier, he gave her some. Well, you know Maybe. 00:33:10 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Maybe. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty confident. Like, I even held up the number. Because like I said, the conversations with her are very difficult. And she doesn't like using translator because, like I said, she thinks she can speak English. This is not very good English. So I gave her the benefit of doubt still on that. And then I got this weird phone call last night about 0800 from a guy. Didn't announce who he was. Said that he was reaching out. 00:33:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER] English good? Or 00:33:39 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yes. He had, like, a Indian accent. Not Hispanic, not white. It was definitely, like, like, a telemarketer. Okay. Okay. And said he was reaching out on behalf of Diana, see if she could take the day off because she got some trouble. I was like, is she okay? And then he said, yes. Yes. Yes. She just didn't get done what she needed to get done for the day. And then he's like, is that okay if she takes off? I'm like, well, I guess it's, you know, still on, you know, on no. It's still approved, but not approved. And then he hung up the evaded. That was in the conversation. 00:34:20 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Did he say, like, thank you, was he applied? I'm just trying to No. Okay. Know that. Just a 00:34:24 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] And and my wife because she could hear the conversation. She was next to me, and, like and she said that he seemed pretty it was, like, a very fast conversation, and he seemed like he was she put it as a person in charge. That's how Emily put it. 00:34:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That's a cultural thing usually. 00:34:42 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. So, I mean, I didn't I didn't think anything like that. Emily did. 00:34:45 - [STEVE_WADE] That's why he was kinda blunt. 00:34:47 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. And it was just I it was a very fast conversation. I I I think it was fifty seconds in total. I think I looked this morning. 00:34:53 - [STEVE_WADE] And you were not prepared 00:34:54 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] for it? No. And I was yeah. That's, like, when I said 00:34:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] You might get a list of questions ready. 00:34:58 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] You know? And, like, I guess. And then so I messaged him right after. And I actually called. I called him, and we got a conversation. And then I decide or Well 00:35:10 - [STEVE_WADE] I told him you need to I said, we need to hear from her. 00:35:14 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. So I reached out 00:35:16 - [SCOTT_WARNER] to her. 00:35:16 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] I don't know if you checked your email this morning. 00:35:19 - [LISA_LAW] I did. Just with the chain that was going around just Yeah. 00:35:24 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So she saw the text message. 00:35:25 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Tanner hasn't seen it yet. I was gonna show him. 00:35:27 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] But So I sent a text message. I didn't wanna call too suspicious because since he called me on a different number that wasn't hers, I texted her number. I didn't wanna call too suspicious, like, we're onto something or what was going on, and I'll read that for. I said, Dion, can you reach out to me yourself? Protocol is that you personally need to reach out to take off instead someone on your behalf unless you're unable to. The response is and this is very, very good English with punctuation and everything. Okay. I apologize. I asked them to contact you so they could explain my situation properly. Nothing was explained, first of all. 00:36:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Capitalization, punctuation, everything's great English wise. 00:36:10 - [STEVE_WADE] Can you let Tanner review previous text? Yeah. 00:36:13 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] So just Conversation. If you go back through Yeah. Compare that to previous. I mean, she types my name as Neaton. And then, Nate, it's not really that hard of making the spell, I didn't think. But 00:36:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So my concern here is is obviously, like, a traffic trafficking situation or something like that. I just worry for her safety. That may be uncalled for, but I just that's where my brain starts going is something 00:36:37 - [NORA_RUSH] that too. 00:36:38 - [LISA_LAW] I was just like, is there a way that we could do a wellness check? I mean 00:36:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That's why I asked for Tanner to come because former law enforcement. What's the right thing to do here? 00:36:49 - [TANNER_LONG] Yeah. The the spelling and things like that throws a flag. I would say the best do obviously, we have her address in Lafayette. We can ask for a Lafayette officer to give a call, explain to them a little bit more in detail what's going on here and ask them to do a welfare check on her. They don't necessarily have legal grounds to force that to happen. If they knock on the door, somebody answers and says kick rocks, unless they can articulate a little bit more of what they can physically see their house, they may not. 00:37:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So if the guy answers and says goes away, there's not much they can do about it? 00:37:32 - [TANNER_LONG] Unless they can see or hear, they're a good officer. They should be trying to poke their head around the corner and look in and see what they can. But 00:37:43 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Would they have to say it came from us? Yeah. K. Because I don't really want No. That to be 00:37:48 - [TANNER_LONG] He can he can remain anonymous. And, obviously, lawyer that's asking, but they don't have to tell them that. That's a pretty welfare checks are pretty common thing we would do. I did several a week. It is and it's not unusual for employers to ask that. Couple no call, no shows from a reliable employee. Hey. He's not showing up. Don't know what's going on. We go knock on the door and see what we can figure out. Usually usually, it was nothing. They would would answer the door and be like, dad, it's been a bad week. I should I'll call her. But, obviously, this is a little more unique than 00:38:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER] My assumption is is that when she got to The US, she was 00:38:34 - [TANNER_LONG] Taking it. 00:38:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Pretty strict. And then, yeah, I think someone's gotten a hold of her and is changing her. 00:38:39 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] And you yeah. Throughout the two years she's been here, you can see this has changed. 00:38:45 - [STEVE_WADE] It's been rapid recently. 00:38:47 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yes. It went, like 00:38:48 - [STEVE_WADE] She went from ultraconservative dress to tight jeans and 00:38:55 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I asked Nathan this morning if she's close to anybody, and he said no. Because, unfortunately, what I'd like to do is talk to someone who knows her well enough to say, you know, is there anything we should 00:39:03 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] know about? Be Nora, but 00:39:04 - [STEVE_WADE] last I don't want you to get Nora. I'm gonna get 00:39:07 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Nora to see if she got any information on her. But I 00:39:09 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I'd like to just to see if she knows anything at all that might point us in the right direction. 00:39:14 - [STEVE_WADE] She need to make sure that the she's the right 00:39:17 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] to work with Nora. 00:39:18 - [STEVE_WADE] She needs to make sure makes we need to make sure she knows this is confidential. 00:39:21 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Tell Nora she's not in trouble. She can walk in here and be late. 00:39:24 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] She thinks she's in 00:39:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] trouble with 00:39:25 - [STEVE_WADE] Nora. Okay. 00:39:27 - [TANNER_LONG] If if Nora isn't a ton of help, my gut says the welfare check first. If nothing comes of that, then an offline conversation with her. Okay. Lisa, I don't know if that might be best with you just being female to female. That will typically get people to open up a little more, but obviously, we can it can be facilitated however. 00:39:54 - [STEVE_WADE] Bring Gloria in if he needs some. 00:39:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Mhmm. Well 00:39:58 - [STEVE_WADE] Yep. We'll have that covered, I guess, in a couple of weeks. 00:40:00 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Right? I'm saying, unfortunately, I don't wanna wait two weeks for this conversation. But I mean Yeah. 00:40:04 - [LISA_LAW] In the future, and, Tamara, just to let you know, we've hired a backfill for Vanessa's position. Okay. And she'll start on the sixteenth. 00:40:14 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Very solid. 00:40:15 - [STEVE_WADE] Pretty 00:40:15 - [NORA_RUSH] good way. Yep. 00:40:16 - [STEVE_WADE] I already have big plans for her. 00:40:18 - [LISA_LAW] She's super excited, but she's she's five in bulk, so it would be fantastic. 00:40:25 - [STEVE_WADE] Might give her a week. 00:40:28 - [TANNER_LONG] Generous. Have we has the company ever used language line or any kind of a subscription or anything for 00:40:35 - [SCOTT_WARNER] We use touches stuff. We have a manager that does bilingual step in, but we we've considered it something like that. And we've also I am bringing Spanish classes in for people who want to learn Spanish because I think that it is a skill that we should be doing. So 00:40:49 - [STEVE_WADE] Nathan, he uses a trend translator app Say it. On the phone. Yeah. And then he said it works good. Yeah. Works well. 00:40:58 - [LISA_LAW] That's what I was gonna say is, like, in my past life, I mean, obviously, our pocket computers here can do an excellent job 00:41:06 - [TANNER_LONG] at least. 00:41:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER] We can buy a translator iPhones and AirPods and just have people because that new feature, we put them in. 00:41:12 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Yeah. They 00:41:13 - [STEVE_WADE] he and Chris both bought the Android version Yeah. Of those, and it doesn't work well for conversation. 00:41:20 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] Can't really It's 00:41:21 - [SCOTT_WARNER] more like to understand what was said and then yeah. Vera and I wanna try it with German sometimes. 00:41:27 - [NATHAN_HARPEL] K. 00:41:27 - [SCOTT_WARNER] But just to see how it works. Yeah. But no. This is this is concerning to me. I I Yeah. Something's someone it's got my spidey sense going off. So 00:41:37 - [LISA_LAW] When I saw the messages this morning, I was like, something's off here. That that 00:41:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER] That's why I asked for history last night because I was just like but I had gone out to dinner and had a drink, so it's like, I I couldn't do too much. Like, I I didn't wanna jump in on that. So I have a rule. Like, I'll answer, but I don't get involved in work. You know? So it's kinda like
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