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00:00:00 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] But I have board meeting twice a year with Wolfgang and Bill Gates. 00:00:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:00:09 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And one part of this board meeting is to inform them about our current cases from, yeah, safety topics. So this means where a person injury or a damage of goods happened. And this is the reason for the meeting today. Yeah. Because of our agreement, don't try too much call. I I want to to, yeah, have a short update about our three actual topics. Sorry. This list is in in German, but I I will explain it to you which three cases are there. And I I would be or it would be perfect if you give me only a short update and I will write some notes. 00:01:02 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:01:03 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] If there are questions from Burget and Wolfgang, so I I can answer them. 00:01:08 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:01:10 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] I I explained this a little bit more in detail because your email arrived, no but in me. Mhmm. And you also have some questions to the process and more description of the process and to be sure that we work together right. This is not the the the reason for for this meeting today. It was totally two different topics and two different initiatives. My initiatives come only from my half a year board meeting. 00:01:46 - [SCOTT_WARNER] No problem. We can get you there. Okay. 00:01:48 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Cool. I have actual three known topics or three topics known on my side. Mhmm. One is a US topic with injury of a customer with our TS 55 from the year 2023. My last information here was that the opposite side, so the customer and his attorney also include the Festool GmbH on the claim. And then I don't see or I don't have haven't any more information about this. Okay. So this one is the first of the three cases. 00:02:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So the only one I know for sure that's because my date doesn't quite line up perfectly with that. But the only one I know that has an amputation involved with GmbH is the the Ripend case. 00:02:45 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Mhmm. 00:02:45 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I'm just checking to FAQ. Yeah. That's this model. Okay. So where we're at is we had just sent a bunch of yeah. That that's this one. Okay. 00:02:57 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] That's one. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. 00:02:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So we sent a list of responses back to the opposing attorney, and then I sent Norbert a list of things that I need HQ's help on. And I think he's maybe meeting with you today or something like that. 00:03:16 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] On Wednesday. 00:03:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Wednesday. Okay. So I think that's kind of the next step on that one. It is GmbH will be involved because as the manufacturer and he's claiming there's a defect with the manufacturing process, there's no way for us to exclude GmbH. So this the current status is is we've submitted our responses from The US side and we will submit the the headquarter side once you guys have a chance to to put those together. 00:03:45 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Mhmm. So the strategy is everything we have as evidence to counter the claims. Correct? 00:03:54 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. Our stance is the misuse of the saw that caused the kickback. 00:03:58 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Okay. Okay. Misuse. Yep. Yeah. 00:04:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER] He was he was leaning over and putting pressure on the saw from the side and trying to drive it. So 00:04:09 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And I think only beforehand and the second one is on the table. Yeah. Correct. Okay. The second one is the Canadian fire. Think it was in a building, a hospital. 00:04:26 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. Clark Building. Yeah. 00:04:29 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And yeah. 00:04:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER] This is the big one. 00:04:32 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] The big one with 30,000,000 US with 30,000,000 Canadian dollars. 00:04:40 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:04:41 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Yeah. 00:04:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So we're I was speaking with a gentleman by the name of Frank on Friday. He and, actually, I had a meeting Friday morning with Norbert. He was looking for the manufacturers of our battery cells. So I spoke with Norbert, and he needed more information in order to provide that because he said we use different cells at different times and, you know, for different tools. So I responded back and asked for the t number or serial number stuff from the battery, if possible. If not, can we get a copy of the invoice of the tools so that we can narrow down time and date, you know, and try to figure out what what sales maybe they were? The reason for that is, there were many manufacturers with product in that area. So the battery that caused the fire, they're trying to figure out who manufactured it and go from there. 00:05:36 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think this is a a good way also. Here we can see if there was a Festool power tool on the construction side because on the pictures, we don't see a Festool product. I think only a vacuum cleaner. But 00:05:55 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. Yeah. Vacuum and They they claimed that there was a TS there, but the picture they sent us is of a corded version. 00:06:03 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] So Corded corded version. Yeah. 00:06:05 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:06:05 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Yeah. So this is also a good strategy to get the information which of the power tools were there and perhaps this could be also a good position for us. 00:06:19 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:06:20 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Is there a timeline behind this? So is there an attorney or something like this with a with a timeline? 00:06:30 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I don't have a timeline because the guy I'm working right now is the fire inspector. He's he's our fire inspector, so on our side. Mhmm. So I asked him on Friday if he could get that for us, and I haven't heard back from him yet. So 00:06:44 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. 00:06:45 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I think he's from California, so I think he's three hours behind me. So 00:06:50 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. The fire inspector, is he the inspector from our what's the name? Sorry? From From 00:06:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER] the Adjuster. Yeah. 00:07:01 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Okay. Okay. 00:07:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER] And so I always keep them in copy too because that may that keeps it as privileged information. So and I I I tag every email for every case as either privileged or not privileged because that way when I have to do discovery and produce those, I can just exclude everything that's privileged. So 00:07:24 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Fine. Okay. So I see you and there's no timeline behind this so we don't know. Okay. I understand. Yeah. 00:07:36 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:07:36 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Insurance. I I named it insurance is informed. Insurance is informed and a fire inspector inspector is collecting information. 00:07:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Correct. 00:08:00 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. And the last one is a dust extractor in US in 2025. Please let's I don't know exactly which case it is. One second. In 2025, test history. Okay. US city twenty six HIPAA fire in April. 00:08:33 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Do you have a carriage door company. Okay. That was 00:08:37 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Carriage door company. 00:08:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER] I think that's this Candice Waters one. I'm just checking my list real quick. Yeah. It has to be this one. 00:08:54 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Damage estimated 100,000 One sec. Carriage to company which fire 00:09:03 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Let me me just make sure because I don't wanna give you the wrong case number. One second. Mhmm. Alright. I have that same letter you have. So there this is the one that has, like, three people three different names on it. So I need to make sure I got the right one. And here's an invoice. Alright. Do claim 25Dash0. So HDI is working on it. Let's see. Let me search this claiming number real quick. Okay. So it looks like HDI is working on this one, but they haven't asked anything yet. Hold on. 00:11:02 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] HDI is? 00:11:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. So HDI has a claim set up for it. Inventory store. So they are retaining an expert to inspect the damage and determine cause and origin. I did say we need to know oh, wait. Hold on. There is a machine number here listed. 00:11:26 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] The machine number? Yeah. It's 495847. I think it's a CT 26, a dust extractor. 00:11:37 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:11:38 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] C t HDI is a insurry or attorneys at law? 00:11:42 - [SCOTT_WARNER] HDI is an insurance company. So they're the adjust Insurance company. They will assign a an attorney to us, but they have not yet. 00:11:52 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] So HDI is the TTS or Festool insurance? Festool. Oh, Festool. Okay. HDI company Bercow, Tarkin, and then Safferstecken. Okay. Yeah. Because there are not more informations on this letter. 00:12:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. Yeah. I'm checking. Wait. Hold on one 00:12:22 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] second. There was a interesting note from Robert here in German, but it translated in English. Information to insurance, fire through dust extractor, not validated, and no further can I say, results, insurance, stop the topic? 00:13:11 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. I think it's one. I so I think that's why I don't have much on this because I think the insurance company basically said there's no proof that our tool was anywhere near the fire or something like that. 00:13:23 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. 00:13:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So I show we've been billed, but not very much money. It's been very low billing, so probably just emails and stuff. Well, no. Wait. There was a 7,000 bill. What is that? Yeah. I don't I this one, I think, is just a dead topic, but I I can confirm that for you and let you know for sure. 00:13:51 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. That would be great. Only a short note to me, Christian, last of our topic is a dead topic, and then it's okay for me. 00:14:01 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So going forward, just to to communicate, are if I email us, like, a claim number and say closed or something, is that too much information, do you think? Just the claim and No. Status? Okay. 00:14:14 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] No. No. For for such a topic, it's totally I totally agree. 00:14:19 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:14:19 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] This is okay. If it's if we close this topic, there's not no much information. Perfect. Okay. And if it's not closed, it's also okay for me if you write me, Christian, the topic is not closed. 00:14:34 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Open status. 00:14:36 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Open status. I know that the insurance company is coordinating inspector and then it's okay. Yeah. I I noticed then. Okay. We talk about this. Are there any new topics which are relevant for me? 00:14:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Probably. See 00:14:59 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] This is the latest case. That is I don't have any newer one from US. 00:15:07 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So no. There there's actually a few older ones, and I I actually sent emails to find out if they're closed or not because I never get noticed when they close a case. So I have one from 2022 still that's open on my side, and I don't know my guess is it's closed, but I'd like to confirm that with that. 00:15:27 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] I have two older cases, One from 2022. It's a US fire investigation, and one is with the PLANEX with a broken arm. 00:15:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. 00:15:40 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And the broken arm is also open. 00:15:45 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. Yeah. That that 00:15:46 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Nihilist. 00:15:47 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Again The 00:15:48 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] other ones Again are closed. 00:15:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. That guy was not he fell, but it was his fault. So 00:15:54 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. So I can also close this? 00:15:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, they haven't officially determined that yet, but that's our 00:16:00 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. If I write here, so this means no ones, then it's closed. 00:16:06 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. Yeah. So the hyper case, and then I have I have one more that you don't have listed there. It's a 2024 start. I have a claim number, but you don't have that. A man Peter and Amanda Jacobson is the name. It was a what's the product involved? Oh, we actually don't know which product. It was a sander. So that's kinda where it's at is we've asked them for more information. 00:16:41 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. So it's a person who make a claim or Yeah. An attorney? 00:16:48 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Well, it's a a family. So a a husband and wife were remodeling a house, I think, and they had a it it is a fire. So they sent a photo of of some stuff, but there's nothing that I could see in it. So I said, I need the Sanders make and model and any other identifying detail in my carrier slash council, And then I'll submit the requested manuals once they give that. But that was 00:17:16 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Still open. Okay. 00:17:17 - [SCOTT_WARNER] You and I asked for that and I haven't heard it back yet. So 00:17:20 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. So you see we don't see this in our 2025. 00:17:24 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:17:25 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] So if there comes something up 00:17:27 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:17:28 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] A short information, but we can have a call. Yeah. I also Okay. 00:17:32 - [SCOTT_WARNER] In order if I need to transfer files at at certain times, he said we can use the TTS file share to do it because then they are cleared, you know, after a few days. So Correct. Yeah. Also, if I if I get an information, I can share it that way. But we'll I'll set up a call before I do that. So 00:17:51 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. 00:17:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:17:52 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Perfect. So for me, it's perfect. I have the information. And if Birgit or Wolfgang wants to know something more details, I can give them the details. 00:18:04 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:18:05 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] For me, it's perfect. You you also bring the your questions to Norbert and me. Mhmm. I'm the first contact of person and when I'm not available, Norbert is perfect. Okay. Please don't hesitate to contact us every time if you need our support. For example, like the topic with the TS, we we can give you the information in your exo sheet 00:18:29 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Perfect. 00:18:30 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And this works for us. For information for you, we also or I work also on a process picture. 00:18:38 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:18:39 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] I also include your questions in this process picture as good as possible. Okay. And if it's ready, we also give you the information of this process picture. Okay. And it could be helpful also for Vera to understand the procedure Yeah. And for you. Yeah. 00:18:59 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Just a heads up, I I just took over logistics here and one of the and so one of the people I get to work with much more now is Mark Mcowan, which I think you know him. Yeah. Okay. 00:19:09 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Yeah. Mark is one of our quality Right. People. 00:19:13 - [SCOTT_WARNER] He's gonna be helping me with a lot of these. So when there's technical details, I'm gonna get him involved because I think he talks to your teams far more than I do, and and he understands the technical side. So just to kinda give you a heads up that he might be helping me out some with those too. So 00:19:28 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. We try also to bring Mark more and more in the technical understanding of the products. Right. And he's in close contact with Robert. He's yeah. I think one times a week they have a call together. So this is also a fast lane for information. 00:19:49 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Perfect. Okay. Sounds good. 00:19:50 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Scott. 00:19:51 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Appreciate it, Christian. 00:19:52 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Perfect. And I don't forgot your question to the list of Adaptix people. 00:19:58 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Mhmm. 00:19:58 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] But I want to ask you the level of the the contact persons because now the list of involved people is very huge, and it don't make sense that I sent you the list of 100 people. 00:20:14 - [SCOTT_WARNER] So Really IT IT would be the most help because what happened is is we started doing some work and one of my guys got in trouble for doing it, but he couldn't tell them why he was doing it. So 00:20:26 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then it's no problem. I will send you the list of IT persons. 00:20:31 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Perfect. That helps me. 00:20:33 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] And I also sent you the overview of all work stream leads. And if you have, for example, a question to IT, then the work stream leads are informed. 00:20:46 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Okay. 00:20:46 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Or you can ask directly the work stream leads who is responsible in your team. Here, it would be Berndra or Meyer. 00:20:52 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Perfect. 00:20:52 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Yeah. 00:20:53 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yeah. Okay. Appreciate it. 00:20:55 - [CHRISTIAN_BADER] Okay. Bye, Scott. 00:20:56 - [SCOTT_WARNER] Yes, sir.
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